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** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. CTBrummie

    CTBrummie Well-Known Member

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    Patrick, great choice for your debut pair of C&J! The Islays are a proper cornerstone of my boot collection and they probably get more consistent wear than any other pair I own apart from possibly my Galways in almond country calf. Every other pair takes my fancy for a while and then something else replaces it for a bit but those two pairs are constants and they both look all the better for it, full stop.

    And I agree with the less is more approach to boot care; I don't think mine would look half as good as they do if they were babied and polished to within an inch of their life.

    (And you know I can't be CrashTestBrummie on here due to length restrictions on names?!)



    Did you not see my pair I posted a few weeks ago? I'm wearing mine with navy chinos, petrol blue moleskins and raw denim as they look too black when paired with a non-blue colour. I think they'll fade though as they get more wear.

    One thing to bear in mind with the navy Conistons is that the leather used isn't the usual country calf and was selected so that it kept the grained pattern when lasted in the factory. IMHO the leather actually feels slightly brittle to the touch and I even sent mine back to the factory for checking - they came back with the reassurance that the leather was fine and any future problems would be dealt with as appropriate but that they were confident that there would be none..
     
  2. patrick_b

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    Ah...makes perfect sense now. I had no idea.

    I'm embarrassed to admit that when I read your handle a couple of years back at sufu, I had to google "Brummie" [​IMG].

    Upon learning that a Brummie is from Birmingham, I then proceeded to spend lose several hours of my night watching countless youtube videos about the different accents in the UK from Cockney to Brummie to Geordie to Scouse. It was all pretty fascinating stuff.

    In any event, thanks for sharing your encyclopedic knowledge of British shoe & boot makers. I find it very interesting.
     
  3. hoit1981

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    I didn't see them when you posted them initially. Just had a look now and they do look nice. If you've been wearing them recently ti would be great if you could post some more pics - would like to see how they age.
     
  4. hoit1981

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    Could someone please confirm whether the Men's Grain Leather Boot With Dainite Sole on the Purdey website is the exact same boot as the Northcote? Grain as opposed to waxed calf, but the same last (348)? On my computer screen they look very similar, but the Purdey seems to have a bulkier toe area. Or, is it a different boot entirely and I'm just being dim?
     
  5. CTBrummie

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    Yeah, other English-speaking nations don't have the diversity of accents as we do because we've had a much longer time for local linguistic development in pre-mass media times. Most of the regional accents have associated stereotypes (as every other place) and the Brummie accent is normally perceived by other English people as being slow-witted but trustworthy, haha! Apparently native English speakers from outside the UK find it a good accent to listen to...

    Nonetheless, when I was in the States most Americans thought I was Australian due to the twang in my accent...
    There's not much to show but I'll try and get some pics done tomorrow if the weather isn't too vile...
    They look to be a variant on the Coniston, mate. If I remember rightly, the Purdey version of that model is (was?) called the Pickering.
     
  6. hoit1981

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    Thanks for the info sir, so you think it's likely a Purdey version of the Consiton, in dark brown scotch grain instead of tan? It looks like that might be the only difference. I'm going to send an email to Purdey asking what last it's on - will see what they say. The more I see it, the more I want it as a winter beater.
     
  7. NAMOR

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    congrats. does C&J require an appt to visit factory shop? dont know why I didnt stop by when I was in northampton earlier this year. i dont know what possessed me to get a haircut from a somali barber when i was in the shoe manufacturing capital
     
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    No appointment required,was the haircut worth it? :)
     
  9. Cleav

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    Appointment reqd at EG, Church open house, JL see below and gods own C and j open Friday afternoon 2-5, ordinarily.

    Good people at c and j

    Thanks pics on way soon

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  10. CTBrummie

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    Email C&J direct. Will most likely be faster. It's a good looking boot.
    No, but they're only open on Friday afternoons and Saturday mornings IIRC.
     
  11. CTBrummie

    CTBrummie Well-Known Member

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    Well, Cleav, looks like we're both burning the midnight oil in the West Midlands!
     
  12. patrick_b

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    I got a kick out of one commenter that described the Birmingham area as "one million people with a speech impediment." I can see how some would mistake it as Australian. The Boston accent isn't exactly lyrical either.

    With that said, it was the Scouse accent that is virtually indecipherable to me.

    Next C&J for me will be the veldtschoen Snowdon. Is that the only veldtschoen option?
     
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  13. CTBrummie

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    Aha, I'd not heard that but it made me laugh! The Scouse accent is like Marmite, you either love it or hate it but it's one of the great British comedy accents...
     
  14. hoit1981

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    Hi there. Sorry to reference such an old post but I was looking through the thread for info on the Purdey boots and saw your post from October. Did you decide to keep them? If you did then presumably they are getting nicely worn in - how is the leather aging? If you do still have them do you have any photos you could share?

    Cheers.
     
  15. dddrees

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    Great choice Patrick, Congrats.

    I have a number of other boots myself, but I consider my Islays one of my favorite pairs.
     
  16. Cleav

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    True CTB though my oil/candle burns early too! Little ones running round the house , Christmas coming!

    Pics later, I'd be v interested in your view, should you have the time.

    Regarding English accents Gents I'm from Derbyshire so not as stand out as the Cockney, Brummie or Scouse dulcet tones!
     
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    "Hi there. Sorry to reference such an old post but I was looking through the thread for info on the Purdey boots and saw your post from October. Did you decide to keep them? If you did then presumably they are getting nicely worn in - how is the leather aging? If you do still have them do you have any photos you could share?" hoit1981

    I kept the Purdeys. They are a deep brown shade which I had been looking for and they are on the Coniston last. I said on a posting that the quality is not quite the same standard on my ten year old Conistons - but my Conistons have a much paler, almost buttery shade compared to current darker tan Coniston. Things change and not always for the better. The Birmingham shop people said that the earlier lighter leather was unattainable now.

    Disappointingly, the dainite is significantly thiner on the Purdey. I believe Crockett commisison their dainite to their own higher specification.
    Having said all that I find them a terrific classy boot.
     
  18. NAMOR

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    any pictures in the wild?
     
  19. CTBrummie

    CTBrummie Well-Known Member

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    Conistons:

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    Snowdons now that they've started to show some wear on the rough-out:

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    The rough-out is starting to take on that characteristic 'distressed' look that will look amazing in a year or two's time:

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    And a bonus pic of the winter hat to rule them all, a herringbone flannel trapper hat, lined with shearling, from those purveyors of fine luxury cloth, the Fox Brothers:

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    Vintage 60s/70s C&J Ranch hide wingtips

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