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** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by david3558, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. Tuur

    Tuur Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to buy me a new pair of C&J. For the moment I only have the Edgware's so I'm only just started buying higher end shoes. For my second pair I'd really like the Westbourne's (in Chestnut Burnished Calf) or the Selbourne's (in Chestnut antique Calf). However, I have a new job where I will have to wear suits. My Edgware go perfectly with a navy suit, but what about the Westbourne's or the Selbourne's. Do you think they are too tan for a navy suit?

    Should I go for the Hallam instead? They are dark brown as well and will fit perfectly with a navy suit, but they look a lot like the Edgware's that I already have (almost same color). I'd rather buy shoes in a slightly different color.
     
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  2. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Well-Known Member

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    The burnished chestnut looks a lot darker on the website than in the real life, it's much brighter and has much more depth (maybe looks like a calf ravello) in comparison to the darker red-brown online picture.
     
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  3. Tuur

    Tuur Well-Known Member

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    Hmm, probably too tan for a navy suit then..
     
  4. BeSpiffington

    BeSpiffington Well-Known Member

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    Tuur, the edgware is a nice looking shoe with a versatile color. Personally I'd rule out the westbourne and the Hallam as being to similar and kind of boring. Now the Selbourne is something different. With a handgrade shoe you'd really be stepping up your game, especially if you got it in black. You'd be surprised how many men in executive boardrooms don't wear shoes this nice. It all comes down to your personal style, and if the shoes fit well. I've got two pair of the C&J shell cordovan shoes which are similar in colour to your edgwares and work great with my navy suits. They're derby's with double soles, which might not be your thing, but I really like them.
     
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  5. Tuur

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    Thank you for your kind comment. A black Selbourne, hmm. Well, I like brown shoes much better than black ones, but black shoes are versatile and I'll probably have to buy other colors of suits as well (for now, I only have one navy suit that I wear four-five times a year). If I need to wear a suit every day then I'll probably need a charcoal suit as well (among others) and one needs black shoes with such a suit, no? So maybe I should follow your advice and go for versatility.
     
  6. Quantimil

    Quantimil Well-Known Member

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    Burgundy is an excellent companion to charcoal, but black is by far the best in my opinion.
     
  7. msulinski

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    ^I have the Westbourbe in chestnut and am very happy with it. I don't find it boring at all. It isn't the most conservative color though. I don't wear them with navy or charcoal suits, but I do wear them with my blue one-shade-lighter-than-navy suit as well as mid to light gray suits.
     
  8. BeSpiffington

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    Your very welcome sir. I too prefer brown shoes which I wear with light and dark grey suits from time to time. If I had to wear black shoes for work, or if I needed one pair of really nice shoes in black the handgrade C&J's would get my close attention. I agree with Quantimil that burgundy works well with grey suits. My apologies to msulinski for saying his westbournes looked boring.
     
  9. wesos

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    Without wanting to sully the C&J thread by promoting a rival manufacturer, if you are interested in a burgundy shoe there is a burgundy calf chukka being made by Carmina as a styleforum MTO:

    http://www.styleforum.net/t/350967/carmina-905-vegano-burgundy-calf-rain-last-mto/

    Deadline to jump onboard is approaching. This will be a gorgeous boot.

    (Incidentally, the only serious pair of shoes I have is the Edgware in brown (and RMW boots), and I am also looking at picking up a pair of Selbournes in black!)
     
  10. venividivicibj

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    If you want it for business suits and formal formal, go with the black if you don't already have black, if its for more than that (business casual, not super formal) then get the burnished chestnut
     
  11. Tuur

    Tuur Well-Known Member

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    Thx a lot everybody for your input. Iill think it over!
     
  12. othertravel

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    If they have them in stock, they have the rest of the retailers beat...
     
  14. msulinski

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    Quote:No apology needed, as it is all a matter of opinion.

    As for black shoes, I would stick with something simple and elegant, like a cap-toe or punch cap. I wouldn't bother with the Selbournes, as they have too much brogueing for a black shoe.
     
  15. BeSpiffington

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    msulinski, the Selbournes do have a bit of brogueing and possibly would look better in their brown calf version. That being said, I just think that C&J handgrade shoes are pretty cool. I agree that simple and elegant is always a good way to go. The clean 3 eyelet derby that Daniel Craig wore in "Casino Royal" comes to mind. Some prefer a whole-cut oxford. Personally I like a traditional cap toe balmoral along the lines of a John Lobb, but then again sometimes my tastes run counter to the contents of my wallet.
     
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    They also have conistons, so it's a decent selection.

    Quick question: does a plain calf coniston go well with a suit, or would the aesthetic not work? I know the tetbury goes well...
     
  17. chipshot

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    So who owns the Harvard Unlined Penny Loafer. Because of them being unlined I've considered going down a half from TTS as in my Van Barrie size. The buyer at Ben Silver suggested going with your Van Barrie size but I am not so sure. They want $200 more than the LHS Cordo, seems like a lot but I need an unlined Whiskey Penny and BB isn't doing it anymore.
     
  18. philweezer

    philweezer Active Member

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    To anyone who has C&J shoe trees, are they uniform in shape? I just got mine and it was difficult to put in and also I noticed the shape of the left is different from the right. Here are the pics...

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  19. BeSpiffington

    BeSpiffington Well-Known Member

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    This shouldn't be a big problem. Call the store that you got them from and express your concerns. It's hard for me to tell on my iPhone if the trees are incompatible and different from each other. Tell them the model and size of the shoes that you have. If sending them pics would help you could do that too. For the price of these trees you should get what you need.
     
  20. green garden

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    The right does look bigger, if not longer. Measure it the length. They should be the same. May give you a concrete data point
     

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