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Questions about "The Godfather"

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by ClassyGuy1, Oct 16, 2009.

  1. acidboy

    acidboy Well-Known Member

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    ^ in the novel, they also portrayed Woltz as a pedophile who beds child actresses and/or his stars' daughters. the dvd's outtakes has a scene hinting at this too. I might be wrong, but I believe the night before he found the horse head Hagen saw a popular child actress being brought by her mother to Woltz' house. And judging by the fact that the novel and the movie picks up some real stories, I sure hope this wasn't done in "old Hollywood".

    also, if I may add: the premise of Vincent Mancini's existence is f'd up. in the novel, Lucy Mancini was getting fucked by a very very well-hung Sonny Corleone, but she was shipped out to Vegas to look over Fredo and eventually married a plastic surgeon.

    And yes, I'd like to believe Fredo knows. Whaddyathink would happen when you're stuck inside a boat with Al Neri? His expression when Connie called Anthony, and when he went through fishing ("let's go, Al") hints that he knows his fate. He could've just called off the whole thing altogether.
     
  2. globetrotter

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    And yes, I'd like to believe Fredo knows. Whaddyathink would happen when you're stuck inside a boat with Al Neri? His expression when Connie called Anthony, and when he went through fishing ("let's go, Al") hints that he knows his fate. He could've just called off the whole thing altogether.


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  3. willpower

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    "I am Enzo... de baker. I stay. For your fadah. For your fadah"
     
  4. NewYorkBuck

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    Sorry to revive a three year old thread, but watching GF1 this evening. My GF is cracking up since I know almost every line before they say it. (>50 viewings)

    In any event, one thing that never made sense to me. In the wedding scene, Tom Hagen states that no Sicilian can refuse a request on his daughters wedding day. My question is this - why didnt Solozzo ask the Don for his political protection on his daughters wedding day instead of a few weeks/months after? :tounge:
     
  5. Texasmade

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    Maybe he wasn't invited to the wedding.
     
  6. acidboy

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    lol...
     
  7. Dr Huh?

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    How much time does the initial meeting with Solozzo take place after the wedding? It's possible that there was no plan then. Or, perhaps a plan had been in place, but the other Dons realized they needed the Don's political connections before they went ahead with it?
     
  8. acidboy

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    considering solozzo was an fob trying to set up shop, it would be improbable that he'd be invited to the wedding. plus I don't even think bruno tattaglia, his partner, was even there in the wedding- only his dad philip and emilio barzini and the heads of the other families.
     
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    MC is showing the Godfather Saga this weekend. This is the chronological version which starts with the GF 2 flashbacks then moves forward. Also supposed to contain the deleted scenes mentioned on this thread.
     
  11. DannyJman

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    Sonny was made an example... he was one hell of a cocky guy xD
     
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    I have a question. Tom Hagen - did Michael ever truly trust him? And if he didn't, why did he forgive him by not having him purged? Michael moved him around a lot after his father retired.

    I always wondered if Robert Duvall had come to terms to star in the third film whether he would be on Michael's good or bad side.
     
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    It's hard to say. Michael has a funny relationship with Tom. He's usually not as warm to him. When Tom sees Michael at the wedding, Michael's first instinct is to shake his hand, while Tom goes in for the hug. I think there might even be some slight resentment towards Tom, since he would talk about Michael's future with Vito. Still, he kept him at a distance since Fredo, his own brother, betrayed him.
     
  14. Benzito

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    Michael kept everyone at a distance. Which is odd, since he said Don Vito told him to keep his friends close, but his enemies closer.

    The only person he let in was that Silician chick he married. And even she ditched him (with a little help from the car bomb).

    Michael Corleone is a total enigma, like Richard Pryor's character in Brewster's Millions.
     
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  15. acidboy

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    Michael thinks Tom, at best, as the person he can depend on in their move to vegas... but Tom is "not a wartime consiglieri"... I can only guess Michael partly blames Tom for Sonny's death or for not seeing the Solozzo deal for what it really was. Maybe its in the book- its been too long since I last read it. in the end of the 1st movie, you can see Tom had a change in role and took a direct participation in both Tessio's and Carlo's deaths.. maybe thats his way of making good with Michael. come to think of it, in part 2 he also had some 'issues' with Michael making Michael question his loyalty to the Corleone family... and in the end he was the one who met with Pantangeli and talked about the time of the Roman emperors where the traitors who get caught kills themselves.
     
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    Tom Hagen was scheduled to be the 'bad guy' in Part 3. That is why there is so much tension and build-up of a Michael v. Tom battle in Parts 1 and 2. However, Duvall wanted to be paid more than the movie company was willing to pay for Part 3 (considering that he would've had much more screen time) and consequently the Michael v. Tom story didn't materialize in Part 3.
     
  17. VaderDave

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    I started reading the book last night. I got about 80 pages in before I had to go to bed. It's a good read.
     
  18. acidboy

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    so they said, "hey you know that tanned actor from 'zorro the gay blade', 'malibu' and 'love at first bite'? I bet he's gonna be a great replacement for duvall!"...
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