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Quality of Tombolini suits/jackets?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by fredrik80, Dec 15, 2007.

  1. fredrik80

    fredrik80 Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone got experience with the italian brand Tombolini? How good are their suits and jackets? Fused, partially canvassed or fully canvassed?

    I know they produce for Ferre, Dell Acqua and Thierry Mugler but not much more info ...
     
  2. demeis

    demeis Well-Known Member

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    fused. not that great of a product.
     
  3. fredrik80

    fredrik80 Well-Known Member

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    Damn, i was hoping for atleast partially canvassed. I read on another board that they had canvassed lapels atleast (like most italian midrange brands)
    There's a really nice navy pinstripe 2 button suit on yoox now for just about $200, then the 10% yoox coupon against@yoox for even more discount

    Worth taking a chance on =)
     
  4. rach2jlc

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    I'd say it is definitely worth $200.

    My experience with the company is limited for their own line and while it certainly isn't Kiton, it also isn't garbage. The cuts and style were the best point... not quite so fashion forward as some of the brands they make for, but also not terribly boring. If you wear a suit day in/day out for work, I probably wouldn't recommend it, but if you want it for going out and such, I think it would be fine.
     
  5. Digby

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    I have a beautiful brown plaid Tombolini jacket that I bought while in Italy a few years ago. It still gets compliments whether I wear it with grey flannels or jeans. I've practically lived in this thing and it's held together really well. I travel a lot and it's always my "go to" jacket. I will be a wreck if something happens to it.
     
  6. fredrik80

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    Received it a few days ago and it was pretty decent. fused construction but very soft and thin fusing, like the better RL blue label suits. some nice halfmoon stitching around pockets etc, nice fabric too. Good deal for $190 incl shipping, cheaper than H&M suits =)
     
  7. pkiula

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    Bought one today at a very very good deal. It's surely not fused only. Tombolini seem to be tailors, in Italy, who make stuff for many higher-order brands.

    I tried to Google for the brand, and this thread seems most google-optimized [​IMG]

    Here's some info I found:
    http://www.tombolini.it/en/collections.html

    Trendy cuts. Very trendy.

    But unlike the likes of, say, Isaia, Tombolini seems to be more down to earth in its pricing (sidebar: why would one want to splurge on Isaia at those prices, when we could get Canali or Zegna or Corneliani at same ballpark?).

    I saw some fused, very ordinary stuff from Tombolini, but priced accordingly. A blazer with bluish herringbone and a Drop 8 type cut was for about 350-ish. Worth it for casual wear.

    But they also have superbly crafted fully canvassed suits. Those were more expensive, in the $1200 range.

    Then they had truly interesting stuff like a 100% cashmere suit without any padding in light camel shade. Great for people with olive skin.

    Their website seems to be not very search engine optimized, but they do some good work and for decent prices. I especially loved their cuts. For the leaner gentlemen, they can easily be in the consideration set. Don't expect a Zegna construction -- but then some colorful variety in one's wardrobe is fun.
     
  8. pkiula

    pkiula Well-Known Member

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    Just to add, they seem to be featured in some magazines too, so they're not a totally unknown brand

    http://www.tombolini.it/en/pressroom.html

    Note: not associated with them in any way. Perhaps trying to justify my purchase [​IMG] -- but only a bit. It's not often that a new brand impresses..
     
  9. aj_del

    aj_del Well-Known Member

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    ...
    But unlike the likes of, say, Isaia, Tombolini seems to be more down to earth in its pricing (sidebar: why would one want to splurge on Isaia at those prices, when we could get Canali or Zegna or Corneliani at same ballpark?).
    ...


    because Isaia better made than all the 3 brands you mentioned ? [​IMG]
     
  10. pkiula

    pkiula Well-Known Member

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    You've got to be kidding.
     
  11. aj_del

    aj_del Well-Known Member

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    ^^ about what ? that Isaia is better than Zegna/Corneliani ?
     
  12. pkiula

    pkiula Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. There's a reason Tom Ford has chosen to work with Zegna.

    I still have to see a suit better done than some of my Zegnas. I guess Kiton, Brioni, etc would be there. Corneliani and Canali mainline are pretty stellar too.

    Anyway, don't want to sabotage this thread with another fanboy thread. If Isaia suits you (no pun intended) then so be it. I still have to see something as superlative as you seem to suggest, but maybe I haven't seen their best stuff.
     
  13. clintonf

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    Absolutely. There's a reason Tom Ford has chosen to work with Zegna.

    I still have to see a suit better done than some of my Zegnas. I guess Kiton, Brioni, etc would be there. Corneliani and Canali mainline are pretty stellar too.

    Anyway, don't want to sabotage this thread with another fanboy thread. If Isaia suits you (no pun intended) then so be it. I still have to see something as superlative as you seem to suggest, but maybe I haven't seen their best stuff.


    Hi, I'm certainly not trying to jump on anyone here. I do have a question about your observations. Would you please provide your basis for comparison of the brands?

    Are you talking about Zegna Couture or Zegna Mainline?
    Are you talking about Canal Exclusive or Canali Mainline?

    Whilst I don't own a suit manufactured Canali Exclusive, I do own items (read suits) from Zegna Mainline, Zegna Couture, Canali Mainline and Isaia Mainline. So i'd be interested to read how you drew your conclusion that Isaia isn't better Zegna and/or Canali?

    Thanks

    Clint
     
  14. pkiula

    pkiula Well-Known Member

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    I'm talking mainline for both Z and C.

    Why both appeal to me more than Isaia:

    1. Natural shoulder fall instead of overly droopy wannabe "slim" style. When I want snug fits, Zegna Milano and Canali's 14000 are both good, modern fits for me without being a second skin. Milano's shoulder drape is a bit like Kiton's as you know.

    2. Isaia's fabrics are occasionally nice. But I've seen a ton of gibberish without fine sartorial details. Wonder if they have lower lines like "Z Zegna" drivel? Mainline Z and C's fabrics are super while being workhorses. Even my 15milmil15s have weathered well with very frequent wear and travel. Btw, I've seen several Isaias with super 100 (not something I'd invest in at that price) and yet there are others that have made me wonder if it's the softest wool I've ever touched.

    3. Fabric patterns more understated, classier, more elegant than the fashion forward stuff I see from Isaia. In this, tastes surely vary and mine is simple: effortless design instead of shiny stripes and checks are more confident and more appropriate to business attire. I'm in a more flexible corporate sector -- not regular law or banking etc, and I still want understated man suits, not the colorful stuff preferred by boys.

    Anyway, Isaia I'm sure makes topnotch stuff and let me not get into a discussion about which is better. Z, C and Isaia are all pretty good suits with good materials. Personally, even Armani and such have not worked for me, ever. Isaia is just one of those lines. (Perhaps the dearth of occasions to truly Isaia's range is one of the reasons--their availability is fairly limited.)
     
  15. clintonf

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    I'm talking mainline for both Z and C.

    Why both appeal to me more than Isaia:

    1. Natural shoulder fall instead of overly droopy wannabe "slim" style. When I want snug fits, Zegna Milano and Canali's 14000 are both good, modern fits for me without being a second skin. Milano's shoulder drape is a bit like Kiton's as you know.

    2. Isaia's fabrics are occasionally nice. But I've seen a ton of gibberish without fine sartorial details. Wonder if they have lower lines like "Z Zegna" drivel? Mainline Z and C's fabrics are super while being workhorses. Even my 15milmil15s have weathered well with very frequent wear and travel. Btw, I've seen several Isaias with super 100 (not something I'd invest in at that price) and yet there are others that have made me wonder if it's the softest wool I've ever touched.

    3. Fabric patterns more understated, classier, more elegant than the fashion forward stuff I see from Isaia. In this, tastes surely vary and mine is simple: effortless design instead of shiny stripes and checks are more confident and more appropriate to business attire. I'm in a more flexible corporate sector -- not regular law or banking etc, and I still want understated man suits, not the colorful stuff preferred by boys.

    Anyway, Isaia I'm sure makes topnotch stuff and let me not get into a discussion about which is better. Z, C and Isaia are all pretty good suits with good materials. Personally, even Armani and such have not worked for me, ever. Isaia is just one of those lines. (Perhaps the dearth of occasions to truly Isaia's range is one of the reasons--their availability is fairly limited.)


    Thanks for taking the time to explain. My reason for asking is that your comparison may be understood differently by some people here (myself included) without the above qualification.

    Most people here seem to discuss aspects such as the amount of handwork, finish, availability of fabrics and fit of various makers. I just hoped that you'd clarify your rational for the comparison, something that you did do.

    What I've generally found is that the "higher" up the construction chain you get, the more delicate the garment is. This may not suit all tastes.

    Thanks again

    Clint
     
  16. pkiula

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    What I've generally found is that the "higher" up the construction chain you get, the more delicate the garment is. This may not suit all tastes.
    You may be right. I've seen huge variety from Isaia, including super 100 fabric, but I suppose that's necessary in the highly competitive world of high end fashion as "Z Zegna" type of crap suggests. But fabrics of high end Zegna and Canali are right up there. Corneliani is in a lower league than those two, but I quite like their makes and pick them up during any sale. Isaia seems to use some great fabrics. But Zegna is no slacker either, their Lanificio trophies seem to be an industry leading gesture that Isaias of the world will take decades to replicate. That Zegna micron-thingamajig in the store felt quite amazing, but as you say it's not for me as I don't have the dough to invest in something I'd wear once a year [​IMG] For me, while I appreciate the handiwork inside some higher end suits, it's a little less relevant *how* the suit was made than the ultimate look and fit *on me*. In this Zegna and Canali win for me, especially at their price points, which are already quite high. I'm several years away from a $30,000 MTM Kiton or Belvest. Back to the topic of Tombolini. Unlike the original posts in this thread, they are
    • Not all fused. Several are fully canvassed.
    • Many of their suits are fully hand made in Italy.
    • Fabrics have a range too. The lower end fused stuff has interesting but cheaper fabric. There was even a slim fit in linen, which looked quite smart and was $350 or so. But there was a 100% Lana merino with minimal padding (like Isaia, but the Lana may be from China instead of Australia) and a 100% cashmere suit that was more in the range of $1500 for the bolder fashion-forward man.
    Basically, looking at the huge range, the minimal padding, the huge range of fabrics and psychedelic patterns, I would even venture to say that Tombolini may be poor man's Isaia...
     
  17. JTA

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    You may be right. I've seen huge variety from Isaia, including super 100 fabric, but I suppose that's necessary in the highly competitive world of high end fashion as "Z Zegna" type of crap suggests.

    I don't view Z Zegna as crap. Fused they may be yet the garment hold well and fit nicely with good fabric. Would not recommend at full price however at discount I will not hesitate to pick them up.

    But fabrics of high end Zegna and Canali are right up there. Corneliani is in a lower league than those two, but I quite like their makes and pick them up during any sale.

    In my view, the mainline Zegna is a slightly higher than mainline Canali and Corneliani (on par). Zegna Napoli Couture is on a different league, Canali Exclusive is very good and I would rate it on the same level as Corneliani Linea Sartoria line.
    A bit off topic but Canali K line is my favorite [​IMG]



    Isaia seems to use some great fabrics. But Zegna is no slacker either, their Lanificio trophies seem to be an industry leading gesture that Isaias of the world will take decades to replicate. That Zegna micron-thingamajig in the store felt quite amazing, but as you say it's not for me as I don't have the dough to invest in something I'd wear once a year [​IMG]

    For me, while I appreciate the handiwork inside some higher end suits, it's a little less relevant *how* the suit was made than the ultimate look and fit *on me*. In this Zegna and Canali win for me, especially at their price points, which are already quite high. I'm several years away from a $30,000 MTM Kiton or Belvest.

    Back to the topic of Tombolini. Unlike the original posts in this thread, they are

    • Not all fused. Several are fully canvassed.
    • Many of their suits are fully hand made in Italy.
    • Fabrics have a range too. The lower end fused stuff has interesting but cheaper fabric. There was even a slim fit in linen, which looked quite smart and was $350 or so. But there was a 100% Lana merino with minimal padding (like Isaia, but the Lana may be from China instead of Australia) and a 100% cashmere suit that was more in the range of $1500 for the bolder fashion-forward man.

    Basically, looking at the huge range, the minimal padding, the huge range of fabrics and psychedelic patterns, I would even venture to say that Tombolini may be poor man's Isaia...

    I have yet to see a fully canvassed Tombolini nonetheless I do agree that they have a good fit with interesting selection of fabrics and reasonable price.


    Just my two cents...
     
  18. saswilde

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    It's not as good as it looks. Your better off investing an extra 10, Euros on something that does fit.
     
  19. cncrd

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    A revival of a nearly two year old thread that was a revival of a three year old thread...???
     
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    It's only a 1 year revival now.

    How is Tombolini nowadays?
     

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