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Quality (and Sizing) of C&J Shoes

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Hard2Fit, Sep 10, 2006.

  1. Hard2Fit

    Hard2Fit Well-Known Member

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    I'm thinking of ordering from Pediwear the following shoe:

    http://www.pediwear.co.uk/detail.php?stock_ID=365

    It is not from the C&J 'Handgrade' line. Can anyone comment on the quality of this line? Are these shoes benchmade or not?

    Also, I normally wear a 11.5 E US (Allen Edmonds). The shoe I plan to order is a 'G-fit' (wide). Would I be best served with an 11 or 10.5 UK? Any guidance would be appreciated.
     
  2. edmorel

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    I'm thinking of ordering from Pediwear the following shoe:

    http://www.pediwear.co.uk/detail.php?stock_ID=365

    It is not from the C&J 'Handgrade' line. Can anyone comment on the quality of this line? Are these shoes benchmade or not?

    Also, I normally wear a 11.5 E US (Allen Edmonds). The shoe I plan to order is a 'G-fit' (wide). Would I be best served with an 11 or 10.5 UK? Any guidance would be appreciated.



    I find C&J to be very good quality up the line with the Handgrades being the best obviously. These are benchmade and I would say that they are good buy. Just buy then from here though
    http://www.plal.com/crockett.htm

    BTW, I'd go with the 11 since it's a round last and your foot is wide.
     
  3. Hard2Fit

    Hard2Fit Well-Known Member

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    Wow! That's a noticeable difference in price (assuming my math is correct). Thx!
     
  4. Garfieldthecat

    Garfieldthecat Well-Known Member

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    I believe someone posted (either here or over at AAAC) that pediwear will price match Plal's price.

    Anyway, I wear a 8.5 Allen-Edmond, and went down to a 7.5 CJ. But that is just me.
     
  5. chobochobo

    chobochobo Well-Known Member

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    from the shoes that I've seen, but my experience with C&J so far has been 'indirect'. I have two pairs of shoes that I believe are made by C&J: Hackett and Ralph Lauren Polos. There is a big difference between the quality of the two in terms of leather, stitching, styling and finish.
     
  6. josepidal

    josepidal Well-Known Member

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    But the Polos are handgrades.
     
  7. chobochobo

    chobochobo Well-Known Member

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    But the Polos are handgrades.
    then there's a big difference between the quality of C&J standard grade and handgrade.

    Ref: my polo C&Js they have cursive lettering on the insole exactly like the 'purple label corbens' that are being discussed. I wonder what the sole of those look like?
     
  8. chobochobo

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    Received a pair of C&J Welbecks (Handgrade) very nice shoes and fits very nicely. Feels solid but not clunky (unlike Bally Scribes). A pair of Marstons are on their way, and saving up for the Weymouths.
     
  9. edmorel

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    Received a pair of C&J Welbecks (Handgrade) very nice shoes and fits very nicely. Feels solid but not clunky (unlike Bally Scribes). A pair of Marstons are on their way, and saving up for the Weymouths.


    There is a chance you'll get these. And they'll be cheaper than the Weymouths [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  10. chobochobo

    chobochobo Well-Known Member

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    do PM me and tell me more [​IMG]
     
  11. oscarthewild

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    do PM me and tell me more [​IMG]

    mee toooo!
     
  12. Nonk

    Nonk Well-Known Member

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    C&J handgrades are very overrated.

    Great quality but apart from a few select models, the last shape is so ungainly as to look stupid.

    I prefer the bench grades.
     
  13. chobochobo

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    Well, the two C&J handgrades (Oxfords) that I have are very nice indeed and are amongst the nicest shoes that I have (I haven't gotten to EGs yet). Elegant last and well constructed, I prefer them to my John Lobb Oxford shoes. I guess it's all about different tastes.
     
  14. acidboy

    acidboy Well-Known Member

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    ditto. i am very happy with my c&j. the brand is definitely on my list of preferred brands.
     
  15. Connemara

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    C&J's are well-constructed, beautiful shoes that can be had for ridiculous bargains. Probably the best value out there.
     
  16. whoopee

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    Vass is the best value. C&Js are nice shoes, but I do not think they are terribly great bargains. Value is, of course, subjective.
     
  17. chobochobo

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    Vass is the best value. C&Js are nice shoes, but I do not think they are terribly great bargains. Value is, of course, subjective.

    Are you talking direct from Vass or European seller prices or US retail prices? Some of them are really nice, well made shoes but good value is not a term I've heard applied that many times to Vass.
     
  18. kronik

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    Are you talking direct from Vass or European seller prices or US retail prices? Some of them are really nice, well made shoes but good value is not a term I've heard applied that many times to Vass.
    I've heard that Vass were a good value, particularly when you could get new-non-samples for around 500 bucks if I so recall. They are still a fantastic shoe, and one I hope to add to my meager collection one day.
     
  19. chobochobo

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    I've heard that Vass were a good value, particularly when you could get new-non-samples for around 500 bucks if I so recall. They are still a fantastic shoe, and one I hope to add to my meager collection one day.

    You can only get new non-samples for that price through sources other than authorized US resellers I believe. There was a few long threads about that. There is at least one German seller who'll sell you then for about that price, but US retail prices are much higher. I concur that they seem to be well made shoes but to apply the term to US retail is pushing the definition a bit [​IMG]
     
  20. rssmsvc

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    I saw some crockett and jones shoes at bensilver.com that don't show up in the plal.com website, does c&j make shoes specific for bensilver.com ?
     

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