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Please help w/ C&J Hallam fitting

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by PaperTiger, Mar 21, 2010.

  1. PaperTiger

    PaperTiger Member

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    Hello,

    I'm a sz 9.5 in an Allen-Edmonds Delray. It fits well but is a tad loose.

    I'm interested in the C&J Hallam. What size do you guys recommend? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks [​IMG]
     
  2. wetnose

    wetnose Well-Known Member

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    UK sizes are 1 full size down - so if you're 9.5, then get a 8.5....however make sure it comes with a return warranty.
     
  3. rlx

    rlx Well-Known Member

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    Size down 1.
     
  4. Westbound

    Westbound Well-Known Member

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    I sized down a full size for the 348 last and the fit is pretty spot on.

    Wait for a few more opinions, tho, as I believe I've read that others only needed to size down by half.
     
  5. bullethead

    bullethead Well-Known Member

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    go down at least a full size in if you have a narrow foot. I'm 14us, take a 13uk on the 337 last, a 12.5uk on the 348
     
  6. archetypal_yuppie

    archetypal_yuppie Well-Known Member

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    Travel to a place where you can try one on, and try different lasts. Its worth waiting a bit to do so if need be.

    If you get a shoe that's slightly off, you're likely to keep it to save the hassle of mail, and you won't be able to tell if a better size or last fits better than the one you have.

    Then you're stuck at non-optimal for 5yrs+
     
  7. Eustace

    Eustace Well-Known Member

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    Travel to a place where you can try one on, and try different lasts. Its worth waiting a bit to do so if need be.

    If you get a shoe that's slightly off, you're likely to keep it to save the hassle of mail, and you won't be able to tell if a better size or last fits better than the one you have.

    Then you're stuck at non-optimal for 5yrs+


    Or sell on B&S within the week IYAM.
     
  8. EBugatti

    EBugatti Well-Known Member

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    I wear a 9.5D US. I find the 348 *extremely* narrow--the 8.5E is unbearably tight. I find the 9E comfortable--so I size down by half. BUT, I find a 9.5D US to be just right--a good snug fit--not loose at all. So YMMV.
     
  9. archetypal_yuppie

    archetypal_yuppie Well-Known Member

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    Or sell on B&S within the week IYAM.

    My point included the concept that he will not know whether there is a better achievable fit/last. Your suggestion does not solve this, it only solves situations where the shoe clearly does not fit.
     
  10. flanker2000fr

    flanker2000fr Well-Known Member

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    It really depends if your foot is wide or narrow. The 348 last used on the Hallam is long and quite narrow. I believe it's the narrowest last they produce.

    So if your foot is on the narrow side, you can probably drop a full size and go for a UK 8.5. If it's wide, you might be better served by a UK 9.

    What is your width in the Delray, which you say fits you a bit loose?
     
  11. Philip1978

    Philip1978 Well-Known Member

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    Drop a full sized as other have said if your a normal D width (us d).
     
  12. PaperTiger

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    Thanks everyone for the help [​IMG]

    The width in the Delray is a D. My foot is strange in the shoe b/c its a bit loose yet there are tiny areas of snugness ( where my foot is the widest ). But it's comfortable enough to stay securely on my foot while walking.

    If it's the narrowest last produced, does that mean it's the slimmest shoe C&J has to offer?

    thanks !
     
  13. ramuman

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    It's not C&J's narrowest last: http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?p=2414285 It's likely their most elongated though. It's something of a crapshoot, but FWIW, I wear a 9.5E in the 348 and am a Brancock 10.5C. I wear a 10.5C or 10D in the AE #8 last.
     
  14. sf_esq

    sf_esq Well-Known Member

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    I concur with the size 1 size down. I sized 1/2 size down and regret it.
     
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  16. EBugatti

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    I concur with the size 1 size down. I sized 1/2 size down and regret it.

    size down 1.

    Guys- with all due respect, to just say "size 1 down" without any context is not going to help the OP. For me, this advice would have not worked. If sized down by 1, the shoes would have been unwearable! I sized down 1/2 in this particular last. However, I noted my US size for context, paying attention to the WIDTH-- I am a full D width-- which is perhaps the most salient dimension here, as the 348 is so narrow. Perhaps both of you have feet on the narrow side?
     
  17. Bellison

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    Yes, I have to agree. This all depends on the width of your feet. If you have wider feet--a full US D or E, then sizing down 1/2 is the best thing to do. If you have narrow feet, then sizing down 1 will probably be best.

    Guys- with all due respect, to just say "size 1 down" without any context is not going to help the OP. For me, this advice would have not worked. If sized down by 1, the shoes would have been unwearable! I sized down 1/2 in this particular last. However, I noted my US size for context, paying attention to the WIDTH-- I am a full D width-- which is perhaps the most salient dimension here, as the 348 is so narrow. Perhaps both of you have feet on the narrow side?
     
  18. PaperTiger

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    thanks everyone for the responses

    when you say a "full D" does that mean it is very snug in a D? And how snug is the shoe supposed to be?

    thanks!
     
  19. brlfvr

    brlfvr Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to hijack thread but was wondering if the hallam is as narrow as most ferragamo's in D width. I consider myself a D width but not in ferragamo's.
     
  20. Bellison

    Bellison Well-Known Member

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    Yes, a full US D should be snug to the point where you could consider going to an E, but not quite there yet. So in between a D and E.

    thanks everyone for the responses

    when you say a "full D" does that mean it is very snug in a D? And how snug is the shoe supposed to be?

    thanks!
     

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