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Please criticise this RTW double breasted blazer

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Naive Jr., Jan 26, 2011.

  1. Naive Jr.

    Naive Jr. Well-Known Member

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    ew. it's Navy, which is the least-imaginative colour, ever. Also, it's British, and RTW, which makes it unfeasible for us across the pond.

    Also, the buttons are too far apart IMHO. Fit questions are a whole 'nother ball of wax.
     
  3. TRINI

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    Buttons aside, it looks pretty good on the mannequin.
     
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    Also, it's British, and RTW, which makes it unfeasible for us across the pond.

    Uh... what?
     
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    ew. it's Navy, which is the least-imaginative colour, ever. Also, it's British, and RTW, which makes it unfeasible for us across the pond.

    Also, the buttons are too far apart IMHO. Fit questions are a whole 'nother ball of wax.



    Jr is from Europe, although I agree the buttons being too far apart.

    As for the colour of the blazer, depends on what he pairs with it.
     
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    Over priced and under quality.

    Leave it.
     
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    Over priced and under quality.

    Leave it.


    +1

    I've heard many retailers talk of the poor N&L RTW collection. Admittedly this is mostly with regard to concession stores, but I assume their RTW stores are the same garments.
     
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    I join in the comment about the width on the buttons. The top two look like they are going fall right on your 'nips. Something odd about their placement. I don't see anything wrong it being Navy--may not be unique enough for the SF crowd but has served the other 99.99999999% of the population very well over the years. Overall, I am not thrilled with the appearance. Sorry.
     
  9. Naive Jr.

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    ew. it's Navy, which is the least-imaginative colour, ever. Also, it's British, and RTW, which makes it unfeasible for us across the pond. Also, the buttons are too far apart IMHO. Fit questions are a whole 'nother ball of wax.
    Thanks very much for your criticism. 1. I find it very interesting that your first remark is in regard to the color. I consider color very important and my small wardrobe doesn't have any navy. I'm completely open to any color recommendation. 2. As far as British is concerned, I definitely don't want to support anything made where workers are exploited. The difficulty is that I don't know who manufactures this RTW, 3. which (i.e.RTW) is at present as far as I know the only manner of production I can afford. I have heard of a very inexnpensive bespoke firm in UK I believe it's called King, but I can't visit. This is also another reason why I asked the question here. 4. The position of the buttons is a critical issue. Would it be possible for you to offer a picture of a button constellation you consider better or even idea?
     
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    Jr is from Europe, although I agree the buttons being too far apart. As for the colour of the blazer, depends on what he pairs with it.
    Thanks very much for your interesting comments. You are right that I'm in Europe (because I prefer it to where I was elsewhere). I think Britain should be economically supported, especially because the workers need support. Why shouldn't I buy British? My trousers are in various shades of pink, salmon, greens and khaki. I have shirts in blues, cherry, pinks. I would like a tie for emergencies and considered buying a two-toned knit presently on sale at Drakes. My Jodhpur boots are in various shades of brown. That you agree to the negative judgment about the placement of the buttons as too wide brings me in distress and I would appreciate very much any alternative presentation of what you consider better or best. For example: http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...&postcount=109 - the difficulty is I don't see much difference, but perhaps you do?
     
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    Over priced and under quality. Leave it.
    Thanks very much for your laconic judgment. Gieves & Hawkes RTW has been severely criticised and Turnball & Asser RTW recommended. Do you have any comment or alternative recommendation? PS: >Quality< is quite a comprehensive category - do you mean everything: cloth, cut, .......?
     
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    I join in the comment about the width on the buttons. The top two look like they are going fall right on your 'nips. Something odd about their placement. I don't see anything wrong it being Navy--may not be unique enough for the SF crowd but has served the other 99.99999999% of the population very well over the years. Overall, I am not thrilled with the appearance. Sorry.

    No need to apologise - on the contrary, I'm quite grateful for your candid opinion. Is there a RTW DB blazer which thrills you you would be so kind to mention?
     
  13. Naive Jr.

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    +1

    I've heard many retailers talk of the poor N&L RTW collection. Admittedly this is mostly with regard to concession stores, but I assume their RTW stores are the same garments.


    No, I don't have any observation to confirm your assumption. At least not in regard to those articles which interest me. House of Fraser or by a German firm http://www.torquato.de/nundl-oxford-hemd-blau.html s, the N&L website shows articles which I have not see elsewhere advertised as N&L.
     
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    meh. id pass. Youd be surprised whats available from a local tailor going bespoke. Full bespoke form a decent tailor on a sportcoat is a lot less than i planned.

    plus the fit would be spot on.
     
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    meh. id pass. Youd be surprised whats available from a local tailor going bespoke. Full bespoke form a decent tailor on a sportcoat is a lot less than i planned.

    plus the fit would be spot on.


    Thanks very much, but I know no such local tailor in Switzerland or adjacent Germany. I agree with your strategy and I would look for such a tailor if I lived in England.
     
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    First of all, you can completely ignore the absurd comment about navy being a bad color for a blazer, 99% of all blazers are solid navy. The brilliance and usefulness of navy as a color for an odd jacket is that it is easy to coordinate the jacket with other colors and patterns in your trousers, shirt, tie, etc. As for the button placement - a matter of preference and your build. That wide button placement is ok and can look good for men of medium/average build, not so good for skinny or fat people.
     
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    First of all, you can completely ignore the absurd comment about navy being a bad color for a blazer, 99% of all blazers are solid navy. The brilliance and usefulness of navy as a color for an odd jacket is that it is easy to coordinate the jacket with other colors and patterns in your trousers, shirt, tie, etc. As for the button placement - a matter of preference and your build. That wide button placement is ok and can look good for men of medium/average build, not so good for skinny or fat people.

    agree with the navy comment. Its a staple. Boring as it may be, it works because it looks good and goes with almost everything. If you only can have one jacket, a navy blazer with out question is it.
     
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    If you only can have one jacket, a navy blazer with out question is it.

    absolutely.
     
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    The price is too expensive, I think. And, the style did not appeal to me either. Furthermore, I agree about the buttons being too far wide apart.
     
  20. JohnyJohn

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    The price is too expensive, I think. And, the style did not appeal to me either. Furthermore, I agree about the buttons being too far wide apart.

    The price is reasonable given it is made from cashmere. However, it is certainly true that number of companies in Jermyn Street make their garments in China. Those that do not proudly comunicate it on product page.

    Combination of cashmere cloth and crafted in England (even if it is RTW) make the price reasonable.

    It all depends whether you believe in the quality of garment from this particular company.
     

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