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Opinions on Alden Cordovan Monk Strap

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by tdial, Nov 21, 2004.

  1. Faded501s

    Faded501s Well-Known Member

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    I have this shoe and it is great. I wear it with whatever, jeans, it doesn't matter. Perhaps I wouldn't wear it to an interview. Then again, perhaps I would.

    +1. I actually sold a pair of these to a forum member last year, BNIB, archival lasted, and have kind of regretted it ever since. The reason I did so was because I already have 2 other black monks in rotation and in particular wear the hell out of some vintage Church's semi-brogues. A VERY, VERY, versatile shoe and especially cool when doing the jeans with a dark jacket. I've never worn them with a suit but you could definitely get away with it...ever since SF I can't even bring myself to pair bluchers with a suit [​IMG]

    If I had to choose one leather-soled shoe to wear forever, this would be it.
     
  2. sfo423

    sfo423 Well-Known Member

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    that shoe is so......sub par. i'd pass.

    the last has no personality to say the least.
     
  3. srivats

    srivats Well-Known Member

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    This particular shoe shape is blah. Additionally, cordovan for a shoe I associate with a softer, slightly more feminine stance is confusing. While I'm on the subject, cordovan for a dress shoe isn't a great idea.

    Can you explain why you think so? Do you dislike the shine/creasing? Or do you think they are too chunky (uppers, soles being too thick) for wearing with a suit?

    I think shell cordovan is great for dress shoes - they wear extremely well, getting better with age, and the maintanence is easier than calf. In addition, some of the styles we get on shell are iconic and time-proven shoes (longwings, LHS penny etc). In addition, shell (esp alden) is great value for money and while some think many alden lasts are clunky, they look pretty good in person (from personal experience with quite a few aldens). I agree that some might find the double oak soles that we find on some cordovan shoes make them look chunky, but a shoe like the C&J for polo Darlton wintips looks absolutely fabulous with a good suit. I'd rather wear a cordovan shoe with a suit than some of the dainty looking english/italain shoes that I have seen on the forum.
     
  4. Film Noir Buff

    Film Noir Buff Well-Known Member

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    Can you explain why you think so? Do you dislike the shine/creasing? Or do you think they are too chunky (uppers, soles being too thick) for wearing with a suit? I think shell cordovan is great for dress shoes - they wear extremely well, getting better with age, and the maintanence is easier than calf. In addition, some of the styles we get on shell are iconic and time-proven shoes (longwings, LHS penny etc). In addition, shell (esp alden) is great value for money and while some think many alden lasts are clunky, they look pretty good in person (from personal experience with quite a few aldens). I agree that some might find the double oak soles that we find on some cordovan shoes make them look chunky, but a shoe like the C&J for polo Darlton wintips looks absolutely fabulous with a good suit. I'd rather wear a cordovan shoe with a suit than some of the dainty looking english/italain shoes that I have seen on the forum.
    Right here: http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...2&postcount=20 I could go on but whatever cordovan offers as a selling point around longevity I think that's more about the mind set of the buyer and that it neither pans out in real life or gets you points on looking respectable/admirable/prosperous/well heeled. But I do think that over time cordovan looks like rubber. And this longevity selling point applies to everything. Anyone who buys clothing today because they think its going to last in perpetuity, i will never see eye to eye with. I get suits made up by my tailor in so called luxury cloths which will last a very long time but i get tired of them. I didn't say I disliked Alden lasts, i just don't like that particular Alden shoe and especially in cordovan which I think is a bizarre style. A monk strap should be soft and sleek in a nice calf or suede. And yeah, it it were a choice between running into a meeting barefoot, in pink high heels or the cordovan monk strap, I would wear this shoe. After the meeting though, i'd throw them in the back of the closet [​IMG]
     
  5. srivats

    srivats Well-Known Member

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    Right here: http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...2&postcount=20

    I could go on but whatever cordovan offers as a selling point around longevity I think that's more about the mind set of the buyer and that it neither pans out in real life or gets you points on looking respectable/admirable/prosperous/well heeled. But I do think that over time cordovan looks like rubber.

    And this longevity selling point applies to everything. Anyone who buys clothing today because they think its going to last in perpetuity, i will never see eye to eye with. I get suits made up by my tailor in so called luxury cloths which will last a very long time but i get tired of them.


    To each his own I guess ... I value longevity in anything I buy, esp. shoes and I do not mind keeping a pair of shoes for 10+ years (or more) - infact I'd be very happy if all my shoes last me that long.

    I disagree with you on the point about shell looking like rubber as it ages - I think that the patina on cordovan is simply amazing. I am yet to see a well worn shell cordovan shoe that I did not like.

    just out of curiosity, do you own a pair of shell cordovan shoes?
     
  6. Tarmac

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    To me the choice of leather vs. cordovan is preference and variety. Its like having a light brown or dark brown or black shoe, or a double leather or single leather sole. Do I think one is categorically superior? I suppose I could pick one favorite if I wanted, but why? I have leather and cordovan. I would get a russian reindeer hide shoe too, if I could.



    I like snails... and oysters...
     
  7. srivats

    srivats Well-Known Member

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    To me the choice of leather vs. cordovan is preference and variety. Its like having a light brown or dark brown or black shoe, or a double leather or single leather sole. Do I think one is categorically superior? I suppose I could pick one favorite if I wanted, but why? I have leather and cordovan. I would get a russian reindeer hide shoe too, if I could.

    Well put. I too beleive that there is room for both shell and calf in our shoe closets [​IMG]
     
  8. JayJay

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    Well put. I too beleive that there is room for both shell and calf in our shoe closets [​IMG]
    I agree also. I really love shell but the shoes don't work well for all occasions. Every now and then there are special occasions when a sleek calf shoe works better for me.
     
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    About the heat .... is there a consensus that the cordovan wears hotter on the foot?

    As I am in Louisiana, should this be a valid concern?
     
  10. srivats

    srivats Well-Known Member

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    About the heat .... is there a consensus that the cordovan wears hotter on the foot?

    As I am in Louisiana, should this be a valid concern?


    It varies from person to person. I live in austin and I have no problems whatsoever.
     
  11. meister

    meister Well-Known Member

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    I am not a fan of the Alden monkstrap. I think the strap is too thin.

    +1
     
  12. JayJay

    JayJay Well-Known Member

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    About the heat .... is there a consensus that the cordovan wears hotter on the foot?

    As I am in Louisiana, should this be a valid concern?

    I've worn my shell shoes in tropical climates without any problems whatsoever.
     
  13. Film Noir Buff

    Film Noir Buff Well-Known Member

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    To each his own I guess ... I value longevity in anything I buy, esp. shoes and I do not mind keeping a pair of shoes for 10+ years (or more) - infact I'd be very happy if all my shoes last me that long. I disagree with you on the point about shell looking like rubber as it ages - I think that the patina on cordovan is simply amazing. I am yet to see a well worn shell cordovan shoe that I did not like. just out of curiosity, do you own a pair of shell cordovan shoes?
    You are free to disagree. Just think of the benefits attending my avoidance of cordovan, more patina for you [​IMG] I have owned them and now no longer do.
     
  14. Manton

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    About the heat .... is there a consensus that the cordovan wears hotter on the foot?

    No consensus, but a lot of us do have that experience. I certainly do. Cool weather only for me.
     
  15. bonobono_k

    bonobono_k Well-Known Member

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    i think best shoe in Alden is blucher!![​IMG]
     
  16. srivats

    srivats Well-Known Member

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    i think best shoe in Alden is blucher!![​IMG]

    I see your PTB and raise you the alden Longwing [​IMG]
     
  17. JayJay

    JayJay Well-Known Member

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    I see your PTB and raise you the alden Longwing [​IMG]
    Yes, the longwing.
     
  18. greekgeek

    greekgeek Well-Known Member

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    The NST on the Barrie is hard to beat...esp in whiskey [​IMG]
     
  19. zadnor

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    Agreements and disagreements. Yes on the obsession. First of all, few shoes are more beautiful than Alden's Color 8 shell cordovans. And while I get the strap width prejudice, and even those who prefer two straps (never!), the narrow strap is actually one of the things I love about this shoe. Unfortunately, you have to live with the gold buckle to get the cordovan that is so much of its appeal. If they ever offer color eight shell cordovan monk straps with a silver buckle, I will raid my 401 (k).
     
  20. bahlsdheep

    bahlsdheep Well-Known Member

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    Dat necropost. But yeah, I would agree that the gold buckle does make these a bit "old manish." I'd totally go for a single or double monk with silver buckles -- especially since the nearest competitor seems to be Carmina, for significantly more $$.
     
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