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Omega vs. Rolex

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by syracuse1976, May 24, 2007.

  1. Pengranger

    Pengranger Well-Known Member

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    Goldsmiths accept Tesco Clubcard???

    Yes. You can change them on the value of £2.50 voucher = £10 to spend at Goldsmiths. So 1000 points = £40. I never understand why people use the vouchers in-store for discounts off of their shopping!
     
  2. ducati

    ducati New Member

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    speedmasters are timeless timepieces,I personally like them over the submariners.
     
  3. dzang

    dzang Well-Known Member

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    Got one of these:

    [​IMG]

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    And I've been drooling over this one for a while now:

    Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean:

    [​IMG]

    myke


    That planet ocean is beautiful
     
  4. Mathew J

    Mathew J Well-Known Member

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    Could you please explain how the Omega is "better in virtually every way" to the Rolex?

    Sure.

    The Datejust I had felt like a piece of junk, the bracelet was almost a joke, I remember my wife asking if the watch was broken because it rattled so much. Sure it was functional but considering at the time the watch cost me 2.5k it was laughable. The finish work on the case/bracelet wasn't great either, the lugs were uneven, the clasp was sharp in numerous places...just wasn't made well.

    The Explorer wasn't much better, the nice thing was the solid end link and the flip lock clasp, but that watch had material under the dial, and was butchered by Rolex warranty service in trying to fix it, not to mention the lack of a date with the black dial made the watch seem small for whatever reason, I chalk it up to an optical illusion.

    I used to be a big Rolex enthusiast until I owned these two and then later a Sub, all three were relative let downs...they never seemed as nice as they cost.

    The Omega on the other hand was a bit of a surprise, I always thought I wouldn't like Omega as I considered myself a Rolex guy, but given my poor experiences with Rolex I figured it was time to try something new...

    The Omega is a good size, not too big not too small, also it wears much nicer on the wrist than either the Datejust or the Explorer ever did as they always seemed top/head heavy...I figure it was due to the hollow bracelet/stamped clasp and the thicker case, the Omega has a thinner case and a nice solid bracelet.

    Also the fit/finish of the Omega is just in another league, everything is done right, all the lugs are the exact same size, the finish application is even across the piece, and the workmanship just looks much better overall, and this isn't even considering the movment as it appears presentable and decorated, the Rolex movements are not known for their finish so I won't bother drawing any comparisons but it is nice to have a movement that you can look at and enjoy.

    The sapphire crystal is much nicer as well. It is domed and flush with the bezel which seems to cut down on glare and make the dial highly legible.

    Timekeeping on the Omega is spot on, much better than any of my Rolex pieces I have owned. Some complain about the slower beat movement but personally I prefer it, gives the watch a vintage feel/look to it.

    The hands and the hour markers on the Omega are truly wonderful to look at, the finish is amazing and I love the fact that it doesn't look cheap, which is a stark contrast with the hands/markers on the Rolex pieces I had...all which didn't seem that nice, which always threw me given that they are made of white gold.

    The only areas that I am not thrilled with are the clasp, nicer than the Datejust, not as secure though as my Sub and former Explorer, but it seems to work, the holes for caseback removal, still think Rolex has one of the best systems out there, and the pins for the links...I used to make a bigger stink about this in the past but now it isn't as much of an issue, plus if I wanted screws that bad I could have spent more money (still less than any Rolex) and gotten the new Aqua Terra which really beats the comparable Rolex models out there IMHO given the new movement and overall build.

    So with all of that above I also consider that the Omega cost me new last year about $500 less than I had paid for my new at the time Datejust back in 2001, and the Aqua Terra is a way way better watch.

    Hope that helps.
     
  5. TheWraith

    TheWraith Well-Known Member

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    I also prefer Omega to Rolex, but that's purely my personal preference and not a comment on quality of one over the other.
     
  6. acidboy

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    had the chance to try on the (green crystal) Milgauss and Submariner date the other day... I must say the Milgauss looks infinitely better irl and kinda grows on you.
     
  7. jon5986

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    Very nice - from John Pass?

    Very nice indeed.
     
  8. emakris

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    Hope that helps.
    Hi Matthew, I am not disputing your negative experiences but I confess to maintaining my reservations. The reason is that I too own watches from both brands and I can confirm that the build quality is on par with the Rolex seemingly being the more capable of withstanding daily abuse; I couldn't choose between the two. The movements are also tough as nails with the Rolex being by far the more accurate of the two. Regarding the lug issues you mentioned, Rolex (as well as Omega) are mass produced, machine made products. Therefore, the possibility of the lugs being different sizes is very small indeed and would most likely affect early adapters and an entire batch as such a problem would be attributed to problematic production machinery. The problem with this is firstly, that there are no early adapters of Rolex watches (well except, perhaps, last year) and secondly, the brand's QA is pretty stringent although, admittedly, not perfect. As far as servicing goes, I had nothing but problems since my Speedmaster came back from the Omega Service Centre (through the Omega boutique in Bond St.). The watch had to be taken back twice to rectify servicing errors; at one point I was horrified to see water in the case! And the damn thing was never submersed. I do agree with your assessment of the Omega watches regarding their attention to detail; it is surprisingly high for watches of their price range. Lastly and unrelated to your case, I would like to add that I have spoken to many people who had problems with their Rolexes. Most of them bought them second-hand for "600 quid mate" and have never been anywhere near a service centre.
     
  9. instep

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    Anecdotal 'evidence' is worthless, guys. Let's just call a spade a spade and admit that (insert watch brand) appeals to [your] particular idiosyncracies.
     
  10. emakris

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    Anecdotal 'evidence' is worthless, guys. Let's just call a spade a spade and admit that (insert watch brand) appeals to [your] particular idiosyncracies.
    I couldn't agree more [​IMG]
     
  11. Mathew J

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    Hi Matthew,

    I am not disputing your negative experiences but I confess to maintaining my reservations. The reason is that I too own watches from both brands and I can confirm that the build quality is on par with the Rolex seemingly being the more capable of withstanding daily abuse; I couldn't choose between the two. The movements are also tough as nails with the Rolex being by far the more accurate of the two.

    Regarding the lug issues you mentioned, Rolex (as well as Omega) are mass produced, machine made products. Therefore, the possibility of the lugs being different sizes is very small indeed and would most likely affect early adapters and an entire batch as such a problem would be attributed to problematic production machinery. The problem with this is firstly, that there are no early adapters of Rolex watches (well except, perhaps, last year) and secondly, the brand's QA is pretty stringent although, admittedly, not perfect.

    As far as servicing goes, I had nothing but problems since my Speedmaster came back from the Omega Service Centre (through the Omega boutique in Bond St.). The watch had to be taken back twice to rectify servicing errors; at one point I was horrified to see water in the case! And the damn thing was never submersed.

    I do agree with your assessment of the Omega watches regarding their attention to detail; it is surprisingly high for watches of their price range.

    Lastly and unrelated to your case, I would like to add that I have spoken to many people who had problems with their Rolexes. Most of them bought them second-hand for "600 quid mate" and have never been anywhere near a service centre.


    Instep, I see where you're comming from but given the question emakris asked my personal experiences are relavent to my feelings/observations.

    I have had bad experiences with Rolex and nothing but positive with Omega which is why, combined with a massive disparity in price I find Rolex to be overpriced and not worth the money.

    To a few of emakris' points I find both brands wear about the same daily (Omega's seem like they wear more because they used milled parts vs Rolex stamped earlier on, now with both using milled they show scratches equally), and the ETA base in my Omega is one I would reard just as robust if not moreso than the 31XX series in my Sub given the rotor arbor being of the smaller diameter, but that is a tiny point....the cal 8500 movement seems amazing but is too new to tell.

    As for my watches, I have bought them all new, the last two of them from retail dealers local to me, the first I purchased from a highly reputable grey dealer (though it is funny that everyone always presumes at first that my watches must have been used or even worse fake).

    Rolex serviced Explorer themselves and made it worse, and the Sub I wrote them a letter as I didn't want to deal with warranty service again, they replied back that finish differences are to be expected given that they supposedly hand finish a million plus watches a year, I had bumped into a few others online that witnessed similar finishing oops on their watches from around the same time period which makes me think it was a batch issue. To be fair though, on the Datejust I presumed it was bad finish work when I saw the lug finish but when compared to my Explorer and Sub I figured it was normal, with the Sub there is a variance (one lug is brushed down a little more) but it is a slight variance, so slight I didn't notice it in the store and only after a few months of wear did I notice it....I could see others never seeing it.

    So while on the whole individual expereinces don't mean much statistacally or to the company, they are valuable in seeing owner opinions and experiences.

    Emakris, Sorry to hear about your Speedy issue but virtually everyone in the watch community knows that the two best ways to get your Omega fixed is either to know a local watchmaker that specializes on Omega or to send it back directly to Bienne.
     

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