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Official: STAR WARS THREAD. These are the droids you're looking for. **WARNING MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Jr Mouse, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Well-Known Member

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    Still working on his fadez.
     
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    We´re talking about a Universe... "news" have to spread across this Universe, so it seems plausible that lots of people might have never heard of something that happen in a distant planet solar system or galaxy.
     
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    I'll need to re-watch that part. You are likely right on the Jedi. Main thing I remember clearly is his surprise about Obi-Wan having fought in the Clone Wars.

    "No, my father didn't fight in the wars. He was a navigator on a spice freighter."
    "That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals...thought he should have stayed here and not gotten involved."
    "YOU fought in the Clone Wars?"
    "Yes, I was once a Jedi Knight. The same as your father."

    If anything this backs up my statements earlier. The galaxy remembers well the great battles. What is hazy to many are the force and Jedi.
     
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    Jr Mouse Well-Known Member

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    Also I hope the meaning behind Han being the one to tell them that the Dark Side and Jedi were real doesn't escape anyone here. After-all he was the most skeptical one in ANH.
     
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    El Argentino Well-Known Member

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    Right - this was actually the most emotionally poignant part of the whole thing for me.
     
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    The prequels mostly dealt with the politics of heavily populated capital planets and leading business interests. I won't deny that Lucas probably over did it with the jedi influence/population, but even in the prequels, it was clear that the outer rim systems had little contact with them. If your planet didn't happen to be the victim of a trade federation blockade, it was unlikely that you would ever see a single jedi, let alone an army of them.

    The original trilogy pretty much took place in the backwaters of the universe, and all of the characters were from that part of the world with the exception of those from Alderaan (not 100% sure how to justify Leia's lack of knowledge and understanding given that a core planet with billions of people should have had significant jedi exposure and their rebel sympathies should have led to the memory being kept alive). The scrappy band of rebels was pretty successful in their battles, but we never really got a glimpse of what was going on at the core of the galaxy where memories of the Jedi would have been stronger.

    In the expanded universe, it is kind of assumed that the rebellion sweeps their way through the galaxy after killing the emperor and vader. But since that is all out the window...who knows what these new films will entail.

    Seems pretty clear that the empire did not collapse. Perhaps Alderaan was the odd man out and the populations of many other core planets continued to remain loyal to the empire. Perhaps the empire is really not even such a bad ruler to those planets so they have no reason to oppose them...the memory of the jedi is crushed, their powers treated as false rumors that were simply perpetuated by themselves and "demonstrated" using careful training and parlor tricks.
     
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    +1
     
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    Does anyone recall the end of the original ROTJ vs the later editions?

    I know that the later edits added fucking celebrating gungans and celebrating throngs of people on Coruscant, but that's not true of the original trilogy right? Just Luke and the ghost jedi and celebrating ewoks?

    If coruscant was really taking to the streets in cheers of victory, then my theory is no good. But I certainly wouldn't complain if they ignore this lucas-added sequence in the new films (just like they presumably ignored shit like midichlorians).
     
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    Yeah, original was just a small, local celebration with surviving rebels and Ewoks. Would likely play into my personal theory of an "accepted" Empire.
     
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    The very original scripted ending of ROTJ, and one of the reasons Gary Kurtz left to the great detriment of the series, was to have Luke burn Vader's body then disappear into the woods like a rogue samurai or the Man with No Name in a Leone western.
     
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    I'm not into the SW lore but I see many who seems to despise midichlorians, why is that?
     
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    'Cos they're beyond stupid and because The Force is cheapened by a pseudo scientific explanation.
     
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    When was it introduced? I kind of don't remember it in the original trilogy or maybe I just haven't seen them in a while? Or is it mainly just from the books?
     
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    They were introduced in The Phantom Menace - the scene where Jar Jar is in the bathroom in with a magazine and comes out with a tissue full of midi-chlorians.
     
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    It was invented for the prequels. Was not mentioned once in the original trilogy and never appeared in any of the EU before TPM.
     
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    From a time before midichlorination, some random SW art:


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    Who is the girl in the 2nd picture next to Luke's face?
     
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    Not really sure who Drew is going for there. Maybe someone else have an idea...
     
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    Callista. A force-spirit that Luke found living in an old republic dreadnought, and fell in love with over a span of EU novels before rediscovering future-wife Mara Jade.

    First art is the cover of "Darksaber" by Kevin J. Anderson. Good book. 2nd is from "Children of the Jedi" by Barbra Hambly(?). Not a very good book. Third one is from one of the three-part "Black Fleet Crisis." A decent number of the EU novels before the Yuzhan Vong mess were actually pretty good and entertaining.

    I know, I just blew y'all's minds.
     
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