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Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Piobaire, May 22, 2010.

  1. imschatz

    imschatz Well-Known Member

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    You have excessive wedges.
    In reality .. I'd like more. I could easily swap out my 3/4 and 6 iron's for a 52 and 56 wedge. From 150-225 yards I have 8 clubs (3-PW). From 50-150 .. I'm supposed to have 1 or 2? Seems unrealistic when 80% of my iron shots come from inside 150 years.
     
  2. itsstillmatt

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    In reality .. I'd like more. I could easily swap out my 3/4 and 6 iron's for a 52 and 56 wedge. From 150-225 yards I have 8 clubs (3-PW). From 50-150 .. I'm supposed to have 1 or 2? Seems unrealistic when 80% of my iron shots come from inside 150 years.
    If you are shooting in the 90s, and you hit your PW 150, can we assume that you just skull it every time?
     
  3. archetypal_yuppie

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    Depends on how up-hill. But ya, 280 yards regardless is a well hit drive for the average golfer. Had a drive last week that was close to 340 off a slightly elevated tee. I love angry drives. The kind you get after a shitty couple holes, and you just say "**** it, I'm going to try and break this ball".

    The average golfer cannot hit the ball 280yds under any circumstances, though many think they can. Half the time they look at the length of the hole on the scorecard, and don't account for the fact that they teed off 40yds closer to the hole than that.
     
  4. Piobaire

    Piobaire Well-Known Member

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    My instructor was telling us about the time he played a round as John Daly's partner (this was some time ago). Our pro said Daly used a PW for a 160 yard shot and he thought Daly was "from another universe."
     
  5. archetypal_yuppie

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    In reality .. I'd like more. I could easily swap out my 3/4 and 6 iron's for a 52 and 56 wedge. From 150-225 yards I have 8 clubs (3-PW). From 50-150 .. I'm supposed to have 1 or 2? Seems unrealistic when 80% of my iron shots come from inside 150 years.

    Does your PW belong to a set where they maker de-lofts everything to make the golfer feel manly? I had cobra's early in high school and I think the PW was 45* or so, vs 48* or so with my titleists.

    I've never had any probs w/ just the PW and SW. Learn to choke up/punch when needed... If I had more wedges I think I would have much less feel with each.
     
  6. imschatz

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    If you are shooting in the 90s, and you hit your PW 150, can we assume that you just skull it every time?

    Shooting in the 80's would be perfect. I hope to get there sometime this season. Good enough that if you go out with guys from work you don't embarass yourself, and not so good to require constant practice. My problem is I can't seem to string together 18 holes. Last time I was out, I was 10 over after 15. Finished with a tripple-tripple-tripple. Seriously .. wtf is that!?!
    Nah .. I hit the ball fairly well. Just not consistent enough to score well. And my chipping (inside 50 yards) can be attrocious. Some rounds .. I'd have better odds hitting the green with a 3 iron from 200+ then a chip from inside 20.
     
  7. archetypal_yuppie

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    ^ Sounds like you're uncomfortable with less-than-full swings. Practice hitting half shots, rather than crushing the ball.
     
  8. Thomas

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    If the only "wedge" you have in your bag is a PW .. I envy you. I have 4 wedges. PW, and a 50, 54, 58. I can hit my PW 150ish, and like the 3 other wedges to fill out the space between 50 to 150 yards. Don't use the 58 much though, mainly because my home course is pretty easy with little requirment to play flop or bunker shots.

    Nah - I have three wedges: a 48 PW, a Cleveland 588 56 wide-flanged sand wedge, and a cheapie 60 with very little bounce. Between those I either grip down or take a shorter backswing if I have to dial it back. The 588 gets me through fluffy lies and the 60 covers me on hardpan and the occasional flop. These cover me from 120 and in from the fairway.
     
  9. archetypal_yuppie

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    One of my favorite things to do in high school after a match/practice would be to squeeze in another 9 with just a 3-wood, 7-iron, and sand wedge. I'm still pretty good at putting with my SW. We'd basically have to jog to get 9 in before the sun went down.

    It's fun, and it can teach you a lot. Its also fun to brag about shooting even par for 9 holes once with those clubs.
     
  10. imschatz

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    ^ Sounds like you're uncomfortable with less-than-full swings. Practice hitting half shots, rather than crushing the ball.
    Eh .. I'm not sure what it is. I can have really great practice swings at less then full swing. But as soon as I go to hit the ball the swing becomes sloppy and awkward. I should probably spend more time on the range and less time on the course.
     
  11. Piobaire

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    You guys are still all my heros. [​IMG]

    Hope I break 100 on Saturday. On the par 3 nine holes I plan to do. [​IMG]
     
  12. archetypal_yuppie

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    Eh .. I'm not sure what it is. I can have really great practice swings at less then full swing. But as soon as I go to hit the ball the swing becomes sloppy and awkward. I should probably spend more time on the range and less time on the course.

    A lot of people lose confidence in how hard to hit it on half-shots, and decelerate into the ball, or catch it thin/fat.

    A good trick for avoiding this is to keep your backswing as short as possible. If you do this, you have no choice but to accelerate through the ball.

    Also, on short shots most golfers leave the ball short of the pin, because they look at the front edge of the green instead of at the hole. Concentrate on getting the ball to the hole.
     
  13. imschatz

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    A lot of people lose confidence in how hard to hit it on half-shots, and decelerate into the ball, or catch it thin/fat.

    A good trick for avoiding this is to keep your backswing as short as possible. If you do this, you have no choice but to accelerate through the ball.

    Also, on short shots most golfers leave the ball short of the pin, because they look at the front edge of the green instead of at the hole. Concentrate on getting the ball to the hole.

    Interesting thought .. probably also explains how I was chipping very well my first 3-4 rounds while I was still playing around with the Golf Channel stuff I "learned" over the winter. Had one bad round a few weeks back chipping, and I'm back to where I was last season. Ditching work a little early to go out this afternoon. I'll give this a try.
     
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    whoever can hit a drive 280 uphill but cant hole the ball from 20 yards in AT MOST three shots is definately spending his time at the wrong practice site. Leave the range and start working those par 3 holes.. Besides, thinking one would need 5 wedges is a bit much in my book.. Most guys I know prefer to get comfortable with 3 or at most 4 wedges, with a couple of them that carry only two..

    the 3 clubs 9 holes thing reminded me of a "drill" my old pro gave me a long time ago. He basically confiscated my clubs and left me the 7 iron and a putter, and the message that I could get the rest back when I broke 82 in a club tournament. He did the same thing a half year later with the 4 iron instead, which is a bitch to get out of greenside bunkers [​IMG] . the main thing that it taught me was to be VERY creative with my irons, to this day i can vary the length, height and curvature of a shot because I needed those shots then(and a sort of flop shot with the 4 iron, which isnt very usefull except for training some "feel" for shots).

    iammatt's remark about the driver holds true for me as well, a normal drive for me is 230m carry, 240, 250m total depending on conditions. Which is more then enough to play most courses in these parts.
     
  15. bdeuce22

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    i agree whole heartedly on practicing half and 3/4 shots. i have a 48, 52, and 56 degree wedges, but really the 48 only comes out of the bag. use the 52 for chipping and the 56 for sand or flop shots. from 140 and in, it is all PW. i change my grip, the position of the ball in my stance, and my backswing depending how far i am.
     
  16. imschatz

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    whoever can hit a drive 280 uphill but cant hole the ball from 20 yards in AT MOST three shots is definately spending his time at the wrong practice site. Leave the range and start working those par 3 holes.. Besides, thinking one would need 5 wedges is a bit much in my book.. Most guys I know prefer to get comfortable with 3 or at most 4 wedges, with a couple of them that carry only two..
    I'd say .. at most 4 shots. On and 3 putts, or on in 2 and 2 putts. Either of these are absolute worst case scenario. Takes a really bad chip not to hit the green from 20 yards (I do it fairly consistently), or takes a really bad putt to 3 putt.

    Plus .. I don't think I've ever hit my driver at a driving range, and can consistently drive the ball 290+. I have a good driver, play good balls, and have the mechanics for a good drive. So, just because someone can hit the ball 280 .. doesn't mean they practice that.
     
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    Ahhh, at long last, this threak is starting to turn into a StyleForum threak.
     
  18. itsstillmatt

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    I'd say .. at most 4 shots. On and 3 putts, or on in 2 and 2 putts. Either of these are absolute worst case scenario. Takes a really bad chip not to hit the green from 20 yards (I do it fairly consistently), or takes a really bad putt to 3 putt.

    Plus .. I don't think I've ever hit my driver at a driving range, and can consistently drive the ball 290+. I have a good driver, play good balls, and have the mechanics for a good drive. So, just because someone can hit the ball 280 .. doesn't mean they practice that.

    The point is that almost nobody hits the ball 280 or 290 consistently... hell even ever without a good bounce. People who have played some golf see that and assume it is BS until proven otherwise. Post a swing or something... How is that, Douglas?
     
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    The point is that almost nobody hits the ball 280 or 290 consistently... hell even ever without a good bounce. People who have played some golf see that and assume it is BS until proven otherwise. Post a swing or something...

    (...) How is that, Douglas?


    Yeah, I was about to talk about the good old days of drives in the 280-330 range (a handful at best), until I remember what it was like to get really cozy with the OB markers, and sacrificing a few balls to traffic, and finally I remembered that there's a reason I leave my woods at the house.
     
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    Oh, and if you're 20 yards off the green and can't chip on, bang it with your putter.
     

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