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NY Times Critical Shopper Reviews the Gap

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by TheDroog, May 19, 2011.

  1. TheDroog

    TheDroog Well-Known Member

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/19/fa...=1&ref=fashion This is so right on target. Once the king of 90's casual fashion, Gap now aimlessly lumbers around trying to appeal to everyone and impressing no one. Patrick Robinson made a huge improvement with the 1969 jeans and now they've fired him. Where are they are going to go now?
     
  2. nicelynice

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    keep making underwear and socks for people without a uniqlo nearby?
     
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    keep making underwear and socks for people without a uniqlo nearby?

    hahaha Gap is where I got a lot of my underwear through high school and was the only thing I had ever bought from them until I got that down vest this year
     
  4. robin

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    Who is Patrick Robinson.
     
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    boring write-up that echoes the same thoughts and opinions of all the other gap editorials i've seen in the last 3-4 years
     
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    wow, really going out on a limb criticizing Gap...
     
  7. GoSurface

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    Who is Patrick Robinson.

    Whoa, you're still alive?
     
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    I don't have a problem with Gap. After you factor in the 40% off coupon that floats around every now and then, there are a few good items that are "good enough" given the discounted price.
     
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    keep making underwear and socks for people without a uniqlo nearby?

    Is it just me or is their underwear really bad? I picked up some boxer briefs there last year and they were pretty horrible, fabric was shit, I mean markedly worse than merona(target) or hanes.
     
  10. pseudonym

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    Gap isn't too bad. They've updated their fits, and imo, they're great.

    Take the slim/tailored fit chinos for example. I tried on a pair of black chinos and they fit great. Nice taper all around. I'd say the fit is better than Uniqlo UVC's.

    For $50, I wouldn't get them. But with a 40% coupon, it's definitely worth it. Until then, I will continue to wear my green tailored UVC's.
     
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    Despite the inconsistency with the fit, I like Gap's more recent shirt releases. The diamond and gradient shirts are nice, especially when you can get them on sale.
     
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    Racks and racks and racks of obligation pieces, browns and blacks and grays and navys. Isn't that why you go to Gap? I guess I never had preconceived notions that Gap ever "dictated taste" in American fashion...
     
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    ^ The Gap khaki -- which was, IIRC, a Mickey Drexler project when he was there -- affected the image of American bizcash forever, mostly in bad ways that have to do with ill-fitting pants with leg openings the size of my waist.
     
  14. LA Guy

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    1. It's pretty spot on.
    2. It's a pussy move - so easy to criticize The GAP.

    I want to see The Critical Shopper take on some of the heavies, either fashionista darlings (Atelier - looks like someone never got over reading Goethe in the 11th grade,) uptown stalwarts (Bergdorf Goodman - where trophy wives go to buy their husband's Borrelli sweaters and Incotex trousers so that they can look the same as they did when they were still middle management and wore Alfani and dockers, just with a larger gut.) The best would be if they reviewed a place like Saks - stuck somewhere between middle class and upper middle class - a good place to get a Canali suit, and Dolce&Gabbana leather jacket to match the Seven jeans - because the buyers haven't bothered to follow trends since 2002.
     
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    Gap isn't that bad. I like their tees, and the chinos and shorts are good for the price, especially with the ridiculous coupons they always have out.
     
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    1. It's pretty spot on.
    2. It's a pussy move - so easy to criticize The GAP.

    I want to see The Critical Shopper take on some of the heavies, either fashionista darlings (Atelier - looks like someone never got over reading Goethe in the 11th grade,) uptown stalwarts (Bergdorf Goodman - where trophy wives go to buy their husband's Borrelli sweaters and Incotex trousers so that they can look the same as they did when they were still middle management and wore Alfani and dockers, just with a larger gut.) The best would be if they reviewed a place like Saks - stuck somewhere between middle class and upper middle class - a good place to get a Canali suit, and Dolce&Gabbana leather jacket to match the Seven jeans - because the buyers haven't bothered to follow trends since 2002.


    Jon did a pretty good write-up on Epaulet about a year ago.
     
  17. TheDroog

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    The irrelevance of the Gap says more about the evolution of men's tastes than it does about the company itself. As Caramenica points out, in the 1990s wearing Gap was the surest and best way to fit in. Everyone was wearing denim shirts and pleated khakis, and so were you. It was pretty cool to conform. But since the early 2000s, men's fashion has emphasized individuality, hence the increasing popularity of mall brands like J.Crew and Urban Outfitters that do a better job of offering attention-grabbing items. Men are also more aware of cooler alternatives like Band of Outsiders and Gant. For what it's worth, Gap is still good for basics, but I totally get why everyone prefers shopping elsewhere.

    1. It's pretty spot on.
    2. It's a pussy move - so easy to criticize The GAP.

    I want to see The Critical Shopper take on some of the heavies, either fashionista darlings (Atelier - looks like someone never got over reading Goethe in the 11th grade,) uptown stalwarts (Bergdorf Goodman - where trophy wives go to buy their husband's Borrelli sweaters and Incotex trousers so that they can look the same as they did when they were still middle management and wore Alfani and dockers, just with a larger gut.) The best would be if they reviewed a place like Saks - stuck somewhere between middle class and upper middle class - a good place to get a Canali suit, and Dolce&Gabbana leather jacket to match the Seven jeans - because the buyers haven't bothered to follow trends since 2002.


    Actualy, the Critical Shopper series does mix up its reviews of high end boutiques and mass market places. They've done reviews of small shops like Unis and Self Edge, department stores like Bergdorf and JC Penney, and chains like American Eagle and A&F. The last bunch is the most fun to read since the writers can be so merciless.
     
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    Went to GAP for the first time in probably 10 years as I my GF wanted to check out a sale there and had one of those 40% coupons. To me, it looked just like it did last I was in and the products seemed similar as well, but with a little better cut. Not impressed at all.

    I did pick up a t neck cardigan in a linen/cotton blend that I am VERY pleased with given it cost me something like $11.32 on clearance. They also had a great dip-dyed oxford that I would have bought had it not be full retail. My GF made fun of me buying $200+ shirts all the time but scoffing at the $60 price tag since it was full priced.
     
  19. LA Guy

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    Actualy, the Critical Shopper series does mix up its reviews of high end boutiques and mass market places. They've done reviews of small shops like Unis and Self Edge, department stores like Bergdorf and JC Penney, and chains like American Eagle and A&F. The last bunch is the most fun to read since the writers can be so merciless.

    I know, but they tend to go after the easy kill, while there are lots of high flyer boutiques that are due for a hard landing, imo. I mean, really, in NYC, there are, I'm going to peg it at a dozen, boutiques in Manhattan and Brooklyn that are pretty much interchangeable, and their buys have been stale since about 2007, but that get nice writeups in GQ and Esquire regularly.
     
  20. Trungtastic

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    When I was in tokyo their gap was pretty badass
     

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