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Nordstrom MTM suits

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by pendragon, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. pendragon

    pendragon Well-Known Member

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    Gentlemen,

    I was in Nordstrom today looking at the Hugo Boss suits and not liking them very much, so I started to explore the made-to-measure option.

    Nordstrom offer made to measure suits, manufactured by Hickey Freeman, for about $1100 in 120s lightweight wool. (I'm talking fairly straighforward, 3-button, navy, nothing fancy.)

    Given that the off the rack Hugo Boss suits are about $1000, this seemed a pretty reasonable price.

    My question is: what is the quality like on these suits?

    Are they any good?

    Or can you suggest other options?

    FWIW, I'm in Los Angeles, and I want someone local, so buying online from Joe Hong-Kong is not an option.

    I also currently own a Zegna Trofeo suit that I wear with my Alden shoes, so I appreciate good schmutter, but I don't need everything in my wardrobe to be hand-sewn by pure-bred Neapolitan dwarves.

    Price is not a big factor (around the $1k range) and I have no problem paying retail. The question is, who provides the best quality bang for the buck in LA?

    Suggestions?
     
  2. Golf_Nerd

    Golf_Nerd Well-Known Member

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    Gentlemen,

    I was in Nordstrom today looking at the Hugo Boss suits and not liking them very much, so I started to explore the made-to-measure option.

    Nordstrom offer made to measure suits, manufactured by Hickey Freeman, for about $1100 in 120s lightweight wool. (I'm talking fairly straighforward, 3-button, navy, nothing fancy.)

    Given that the off the rack Hugo Boss suits are about $1000, this seemed a pretty reasonable price.

    My question is: what is the quality like on these suits?

    Are they any good?

    Or can you suggest other options?

    FWIW, I'm in Los Angeles, and I want someone local, so buying online from Joe Hong-Kong is not an option.

    I also currently own a Zegna Trofeo suit that I wear with my Alden shoes, so I appreciate good schmutter, but I don't need everything in my wardrobe to be hand-sewn by pure-bred Neapolitan dwarves.

    Price is not a big factor (around the $1k range) and I have no problem paying retail. The question is, who provides the best quality bang for the buck in LA?

    Suggestions?


    Don't spend 1k on your first MTM suit. Start with a cheaper one, because the first MTM will not be perfect.
     
  3. embowafa

    embowafa Well-Known Member

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    dropping 1K on a Hugo Boss from Nordstrom is too much.

    I happen to overpay for one back in December for $800. I didn't see any that were higher than that.
     
  4. jsherman02

    jsherman02 Well-Known Member

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    Wait until July when they have their big sale....Anniversary Sale.
     
  5. johnny_flapjack

    johnny_flapjack Well-Known Member

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    In LA have you considered Thick as Thieves? I don't know if their style will be what you're looking for, but it's one of our own forum members and several people here have reported good experiences.
     
  6. Loose On The Lead

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    Don't spend 1k on your first MTM suit. Start with a cheaper one, because the first MTM will not be perfect.
    The quoted amount ($1100) might be about as low as Nordstrom goes for MTM suits. If that's the case, then what would you suggest the OP do?

    Also, does MTM really improve noticeably from your first item to your second? I didn't think it was customized enough for that to happen, but I have no experience with it myself (yet).
     
  7. vitaminc

    vitaminc Well-Known Member

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    Where else could you find MTM suits for a lower price point, just to build up the experience?
     
  8. embowafa

    embowafa Well-Known Member

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    Where else could you find MTM suits for a lower price point, just to build up the experience?

    In LA have you considered Thick as Thieves? I don't know if their style will be what you're looking for, but it's one of our own forum members and several people here have reported good experiences.

    http://www.thickasthievesla.com

    If all goes well with my first suit, I may never buy suits from another source again. The slim MTM fit at that price point is pretty unbeatable.
     
  9. teddieriley

    teddieriley Well-Known Member

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    My advice is not to use Hugo Boss as any price point comparison. It's true value is probably $200-$300, if that. The retail is ridiculous.

    As far as MTM at Nordstrom's go, I don't have any direct experience. But if you decide to go that route, make sure you ask who is going to measure (better not be a sales guy) and make sure you feel comfortable with the tailor doing it. A lot of times in-house tailors are hit and miss and that can certainlly translate to a finished product you're not happy with.
     
  10. vitaminc

    vitaminc Well-Known Member

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    http://www.thickasthievesla.com

    If all goes well with my first suit, I may never buy suits from another source again. The slim MTM fit at that price point is pretty unbeatable.


    Agreed on the price point, but seen too many tragic examples on the TaT thread; not a huge fan of their cut/style. I would rather stay away from it.
     
  11. matadorpoeta

    matadorpoeta Well-Known Member

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    if you are not in a hurry i suggest waiting until july or whenever they have the big sales at saks on wilshire. go in and buy a rtw corneliani.

    i don't think mtm is ever on sale. you may also want to try some of the local korean tailors in town. i used to use mr. young's on wilshire, near vermont. you can do a search and find other posts i've made about him.
     
  12. SkinnyGoomba

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    I think its a waste of money considering you can buy 3 Polo suits (made by cornieliani) off the buying/selling section of this forum for about the same amount of money.
    Infact you could probably find 1 Purple label RL for that price, and not for nothing i'd much rather wear a purple label suit at 75% off, then Hickey Freeman at full price.

    What i've done, is get to know my tailor, who has an extensive past in bespoke suits, and aside from doing my work, she also does all the alterations work for the RL store near me.

    She can alter Anything, so i buy suits or sportcoats knowing i can change just about anything about it, inclusing shoulders.

    Even so, i try to get it sized very close to what i know fits me well.
     
  13. Golf_Nerd

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    The quoted amount ($1100) might be about as low as Nordstrom goes for MTM suits. If that's the case, then what would you suggest the OP do?

    Also, does MTM really improve noticeably from your first item to your second? I didn't think it was customized enough for that to happen, but I have no experience with it myself (yet).


    Making the first MTM is exiting. Then wearing it is even more exiting/ disappointing. With this experience the next suit is ordered (therefor decissions has to be made). Finally the details (fabrics, pockets, vents, buttons, cut, lining, ...) are developping from suit to suit. I love it.

    My last suit was very good and I really enjoyed it. But already with ordering this suit I had some new ideas for the next one.
     
  14. jsherman02

    jsherman02 Well-Known Member

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    Last year Nordstom marked down their MTM suits from 1199 to 699.
     
  15. Loose On The Lead

    Loose On The Lead Well-Known Member

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    Making the first MTM is exiting. Then wearing it is even more exiting/ disappointing. With this experience the next suit is ordered (therefor decissions has to be made). Finally the details (fabrics, pockets, vents, buttons, cut, lining, ...) are developping from suit to suit. I love it.

    My last suit was very good and I really enjoyed it. But already with ordering this suit I had some new ideas for the next one.

    If I'm reading you correctly, you're saying that the fit of your first MTM suit was fine, but you felt you could have done better (for your tastes) with some of the options. If that's right, then okay.

    I would like to think that the fit of one's first MTM garment is better than the fit of any similar OTR garment would be. Maybe not MUCH better, but at least a little.
     
  16. p.o.t.u.s

    p.o.t.u.s Well-Known Member

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    I have no experience with Nordstrom's MTM program. I do however have a lot of experience with Hickey Freeman's program.

    The most recent suit I got from HF was fully canvased and made with Lora Piana cloth. I was/am extremely happy with both the construction and the fit. Assuming the Nordstrom's HF is of similar quality to mine, I'd be very enthusiastic. From the price point though, I have the feeling the Nordstrom's line is a bit lower in quality considering mainline HFs RTWs retail for over $1300 and their MTMs start closer to $1700.

    I think however the real question is who will be doing the measuring on your MTM suit. I've got a good relationship with the HF tailor that measured me. I'd however be far more reluctant to let some nknown Nordstrom's tailor measure me up for a suit.
     
  17. Golf_Nerd

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    If I'm reading you correctly, you're saying that the fit of your first MTM suit was fine, but you felt you could have done better (for your tastes) with some of the options. If that's right, then okay.

    I would like to think that the fit of one's first MTM garment is better than the fit of any similar OTR garment would be. Maybe not MUCH better, but at least a little.


    Yes, you got me.

    It is a matter of personal development and about the advancing relationship to the tailor.
     
  18. brlfvr

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    I would like to think that the fit of one's first MTM garment is better than the fit of any similar OTR garment would be. Maybe not MUCH better, but at least a little.[/quote]

    This is not always the case. Too many factors to make this true. The person taking the measurements as already mentioned is a big one. Also from what I now know if you start with a silhouette that doesn't suit your body your going to probably be worse off than finding something that fits you better OTR. This has been my personal experience.
     

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