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NFL 2016-17 Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by jrd617, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. LawrenceMD

    LawrenceMD Well-Known Member

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    sure it does. I bet you $100,000 that the tuck rule would've been called a fumble in Oakland.

    See! :smarmy: :teach:
     
  2. ethanm

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    A good old fashioned lawyer vs doctor fight!
     
  3. lawyerdad

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    :cheers:
     
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  4. Nil

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    The Megatron play a few years back that introduced everyone to this rule occurred in the end zone. In fact, it looked almost exactly like the Dez play.

    Here's that play: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81a77070/Controversial-call-on-Megatron-non-TD

    Two feet, a knee and an elbow down, also a slight lunge on the end.
     
  5. LawrenceMD

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    also super confusing was the 2012 AFC Championship Pats Ravens game where the ravens receiver caught a pass in the end zone looked like he had it and took two steps and was swatted out and it was called an incomplete pass. watching it in real time it looked like an incomplete pass but the slow mo replays made it look like a totally legit catch/completion/TD.



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  6. cross22

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    Wow John Fox is out at Denver...
     
  7. archibaldleach

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    Hmmmm. I watched that several times and each time it appears to me that the ball is swatted away right as (or perhaps a millisecond before) his second foot is coming down. You need to clearly get two feet down before losing control of the ball for it to be considered a catch, so I'm not seeing the controversy.
     
  8. HRoi

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    I guess someone has to take the fall for the one-and-done. Elway's not going to fire himself, and Peyton....well :laugh:
     
  9. lawyerdad

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    Huh, I don't get why that would seem odd to anyone. You've broken the plane of the end zone -- touchdown, play is over.
    I mean, lots of stuff is different in the end zone. For example, tackling a guy after he has entered the end zone is generally less effective.
     
  10. lawyerdad

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    Wonder if Peyton is done too (just not officially announced) and they're getting ready to retool / rebuild. I guess two 1 and done divisional round losses and an embarrassing blowout in the Super Bowl in 3 years isn't great considering they brought in Peyton to win a championship, but do they really think a different coach is the missing element / will dramatically change things next year?
     
  12. Neo_Version 7

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    Don't they have like seven free agents this year and well over the cap??
     
  13. archibaldleach

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    You're right, that makes it even more weird. If he caught the ball at the 1 and fall across the goal line, TD. But catch it in the endzone and it has to be firmly grasped apparently until you walk to the sidelines.

    I understand it, but it's still weird.
     
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    Yeah, I think Denver went all out trying to win a SB with Manning and it didn't work. Now they will have to start from scratch again.
     
  17. Neo_Version 7

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    ^ Pretty much. There have also been rumours floating around as far back as last summer where certain players were taking under-the-table, "handshake" deals that would help benefit the cap situation.
     
  18. Steve B.

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    Elway still looks like Mr. Ed...
     
  19. Gibonius

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    His daughter looks just like him too.
     
  20. Nil

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    I'm not entirely sure your goal line scenario is correct. Everything I've read makes it clear that absent that "football move" (which is entirely subjective), the receiver has to control the ball coming to the ground regardless of where it occurs. I've seen plenty of occurrences where a player loses control of the ball when reaching for the pylon and is awarded a TD, but that act of reaching is a football move hence he has complete control of the ball.

    This is one of those ticky-tacky rules that works a majority of the time but is going to look really bad every once in awhile.
     
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