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newbie looking for nice suit in Toronto

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Fast Eddie, Jul 31, 2010.

  1. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Member

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    Hi,

    I've always had to wear suits (in sales). Since I moved to my current company, I've always been able to get by with International Clothier stuff. My best suit is a suit I bought from Moores.

    My co-worker always been half-jokingly tease me about my cheap suits which I am fully aware of.. but hey, I got tonnes of bills and loans. Of course I know Harry Rosen has lots of nice suits but I can't afford their cheapest one.

    Something amazing happen on Wed. I've achieved my targets consistently.. this month, I really blew them away with a few big wins. My boss told me to get a really nice suit and just give him the receipt and he will reimburse me. I asked him how much is the budget.. he said just get something nice but within 'REASON'

    That's the main reason for my posting! What is within reason for a really nice suit?

    I know my boss buys from Harry Rosen a lot so I am 99% made up my mind that I will go there to get a suit ... almost a dream come true. But what should I get?? What is my limit??

    I am kinda afraid to to keep asking my boss.. he is the impatient type.. I am afraid the more I ask he'll take back his offer.

    Want to get some opinion what I should get at Harry Rosen?? and how much is within reason??

    Thanks in advance for anyone who could give me some advice.
     
  2. UserNameToronto

    UserNameToronto Well-Known Member

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    Toronto's not a great place to buy a suit.

    I have had luck at Gotstyle on King Street W. For $600-800 you should be able to get something slim, modern, and half-canvassed. The brand I bought was called "SAND".

    Be sure to go with solid navy or grey.
     
  3. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Member

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    Thanks for the advice. I think I already set my mind to Harry Rosen and to a designer brand. The cheapest suit at Harry Rosen is like $1000. I think my boss is willing to pay at least that.

    Question is whether its $1500 or maybe up to $3000 or more is considered reasonable for a nice suit???

    also.. another reference point about my boss, one of the top performer in our company, my boss bought him a BMW as a yearly bonus earlier this year!! But that guy really made ALOT of money for my boss... I am no where close to that... but still made him decent money this month.

    Since this is my first suit and I don't have to pay for it, I am going to get it at a nice store and a well recognized brand.

    Here is a few brand I had in mind

    Hugo Boss
    D&G
    Armani
    Canali
    Zegna
     
  4. GoldenTribe

    GoldenTribe Well-Known Member

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    Skip Hugo Boss
    Skip D&G (mainline Dolce is better but too expensive -- then again, someone else is paying)
    Personally I'd say skip Armani too

    And I wouldn't blow $3K of my boss's money without any idea how much he expected me to spend, for what it's worth.

    Get the cheapest thing that suits you (pun intended) and maybe he'll appreciate both your improved look and your restraint.
     
  5. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Well-Known Member

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    It's going to be impossible for anyone on here to know what your boss thinks is 'reasonable' for a suit. There are plenty of people who would think spending over $400 on a suit is ridiculous, then there are others who routinely spend over $4000...

    Here is a few brand I had in mind

    Hugo Boss
    D&G
    Armani
    Canali
    Zegna


    Of these options Canali or Zegna (as long as it's not Z Zegna) would be the best choice. Make sure you get the right size. Many people buy suits that are too big, if you're boss is buying this for you I expect he wants you to look good in it.
     
  6. Master-Classter

    Master-Classter Well-Known Member

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    Welcome Eddie. 1. I'm taking a stab here, but to the average person, even your high flying boss, I'd assume $1000-1500 would be "reasonable". 2. As for recomendations, PLEASE search the forum. There are several threads dedicated specifically to finding a suit in Toronto. Lists of stores, retail maps, price comparisons, etc. It's all there. I mean, for starters, a simple search of Toronto + Suit in the title brings up: http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=175170 http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=154354 http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=150081 http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=21131 http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=95586 http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=67175 http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=51242
     
  7. yellman

    yellman Well-Known Member

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    If you really want those brands, you can get them for half off or more at Holt Renfrew Last Call. It is in the vaughan mills shopping center.
     
  8. random-adam

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    Also, be aware that this is a further chance to show what you can do with money -- if you come up with a quality suit at a killer deal, it will reinforce any good opinion your boss has of you. If you overspend on relative junk it'll go the other way.
     
  9. Fast Eddie

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    Thanks everyone for all your valueable suggestions! Especially about not trying to go overboard about the limit even if my boss is willing to pay that much... that's a really good point, I didn't really think of that... I know he has some Canali and another one he wears quite a bit that I haven't heard of before, Broni or something but I am sure it should be a pretty nice brand.

    Colour wise, I am thinking about a Charcoal gray or Deep Navy Blue... anyway, for those interested, I will keep you posted on what I ultimately got. Planning to go after work this coming Thurs

    Thanks again for everyone's feedback!
     
  10. CutandSew

    CutandSew Well-Known Member

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    I agree with Yellman, there's a lot of decent cheap stuff available at Holt Renfrew Last Call. I remember seeing a Zegna Traveller mainline in Navy with blue stripes for a bit over a grand, and a Brioni for 2 grand, and Isaia suits were about 1.6 grand, plus at the time there was an extra 20% off on all suits. You could also check out the Harry Rosen outlet for Canali stuff, or go to Tom's Place for some Corneliani.
     
  11. Bill Smith

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    If you want to still shop at Harry Rosen, there is the the JP Tilford by Samulsohln, way better quality than Hugo Boss. I would also go down to Brooks Brothers underneath RBC's Head Office, they do have a sale on right now, you could get a decent deal on the 1818 line.

    Now I would only recommend this if you are more at the advanced stage, go upstairs at Toms Place and you can get a decent deal either a Corneliani or a Pal Zileri suit.

    There is life after Moores and International Clothiers, once you try on a really nice suit even OTR, you won't go back.
     
  12. pnin22

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    I would personally not patronize Rosen or Holt's, but go to a place like Tom's Place in Kensington. You can search this board about their selection; my experience has been some excellent finds, good selection for my size (38R), somewhat pushy but knowledgeable salesmen/women. Gotstyle's styles are too hip for businesswear IMHO, but some if their lines (Sand) are quite nice.
     
  13. MyOtherLife

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    You can also try the Heartland Centre in Mississauga. Harry Rosen has a clearance outlet there. Ask to see fully canvassed suits in J.P Tilford, Samuelshon, Canali or Zegna Bring a Sharpie marker with you. Traditionally, Harry Rosen clearance will put a black mark or take scissors to the label of anything they sell at clearance prices to prevent returns at their main stores. Before purchasing, you tell them that you will put the black mark on the label yourself at purchase, or you won't buy there. This way you get to choose where the mark will go. I am sure they will accommodate you, and if they do not, tell them to go f**k themselves. PS- Go very lightly with that Sharpie or the ink will go right through the fabric if you are to heavy-handed or too slow. Practice at home first.
     
  14. Doxe

    Doxe Well-Known Member

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    Also check out Stagione on Toronto St.

    I've picked up items from there for half of what HR or Holts sells for.

    http://www.stagionimens.com/
     
  15. Toronto34

    Toronto34 Well-Known Member

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    If you dont know much about suits, stick to harry rosen rather than last call or the outlets.

    Get a Zegna or Canali, 1500-2000.

    Chances are your boss isnt a part of SF, so he will appreciate these brands as a top quality suit.

    Get something that fits great in a conservative color, but fit is most important. Try every suit on in the store if you have to. (Within your budget).


    Also, all the sales are happening now, (Or may be over, but check it out) and that will also help cut cost.

    If he is wearing Brioni, than he is spending upwards of 3000 as it is.

    So a good outline to follow would be half of what he is paying.

    Goodluck
     
  16. emptym

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    What's the suit selection like at Stollery's on the corner of Bloor and Yonge? I remember thinking they had very high quality stuff.
    If you want to still shop at Harry Rosen, there is the the JP Tilford by Samulsohln...
    If you really want to stick w/ Harry Rosen, since your boss shops there, this is what I would probably do. I'd try to get fitted by the guy who used to own his own custom tailoring shop and was offered a job by Harry Rosen when he (the tailor) retired. I can't remember his name, but he was about 5'8", 180 pounds, dark hair.
     
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    How about a made to measure samualsohn at harry rosen? I think that's less than 1500. And I think he would appreciate that you went that route. You won't find any nice staple navy or charcoals at the outlets.
     
  18. Cant kill da Rooster

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    Harry Rosen does MTM Tom Ford I believe. Go for it.
     
  19. Master-Classter

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    What's the suit selection like at Stollery's on the corner of Bloor and Yonge? I remember thinking they had very high quality stuff.
    There's many a thread about Stollery's. My short thoughts are, they carry some other stuff like Aquascutum and other British lines you won't find anywhere else. Their sales people are seriously aggressive and I've walked out furious several times. It's simply not worth the headache to walk in there. As helpful as Harry's people are, Stollery's is the opposite end of the spectrum.

    How about a made to measure samualsohn at harry rosen? I think that's less than 1500. And I think he would appreciate that you went that route.
    You won't find any nice staple navy or charcoals at the outlets.

    mmm, I would advise against MTM for a couple of reasons. I wouldn't take the chance that it turns out badly while paying with someone elses money, buy OTR and know it fits you well. Plus, the average dude probably doesn't want to wait holding their breath and worried it might be all wrong for a few weeks. that's just my 2cents though.

    Harry Rosen does MTM Tom Ford I believe. Go for it.
    That would make my fukin day, seriously I would laugh so hard if he walked back to his boss looking like a million bucks and was like "oh, I found this guy some designer named Tom Ford, looks good huh? anyway, here's the bill. I figured anything under $5G's was ok". It would literally be worth getting fired over (assuming they still paid for it).
     
  20. Fast Eddie

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    Hey Everyone,

    Been a while.. but just an update for anyone who would be interested what I got... I ended up going to the Sherway Garden Harry Rosen and got a Canali suit. Charcoal gray with some hidden purple and black stripe. It was either that or another lighter gray. The sales person was really nice and seems very knowledgeable. The suit cost $1998 before tax, I was actually looking at one that cost $2298 but the sales guy said I wouldn't look good in it with my skin tone. The guy's name is Lou. Great guy. Though he tried to get me to get some nice shirts and shoes to go with it but he wasn't too pushy.

    Anyway, my Boss who settled the tab was quite please with what I got. Lots of people in the office commented positively on my choice (perhaps a major step up since my other suits are really crappy..) I've been wearing it quite a bit... I know I am not suppose to always wear the same suit all the time.. I am planning to get another good suit this weekend.. this time, I'll have to pay so I am looking to see if I could get something under $800 at Harry Rosen's outlet or HR Last Call as suggested by some of the folks from their previous post.

    Anyway, thanks so much for everyone's advice.
     

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