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New York restaurant adds 18% service charge for Indians because they don't tip.

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by FLMountainMan, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. FLMountainMan

    FLMountainMan Well-Known Member

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    What, was "I don't care if you're black, white, brown, or purple" busy? Was "I have lots of black/white friends" taking a break? When you applied for school, did the "race" part flummox you? It must've been hard, looking at the application and not being able to pick a race because you had no idea what it was. And when you chose a SF handle, I bet all the other names were picked, so you just had to pick "BlackKidLA", right? And for the record, I'm just going to respond to your comments in this thread, not your protests in the Anglo fat wives thread, the Asian penor thread, the African-American woman appreciation thread, the.......
     
  2. Rambo

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    Explain this please. Because it sounds like throwing a $20 on the table before you eat.
     
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    I'm giving myself a high-five in front of the mirror right now.
     
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    +1

    If someone wants me to pay more they can price it for more.
     
  5. FLMountainMan

    FLMountainMan Well-Known Member

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    But the tip goes to the waiter, whereas the price of the meal goes (almost entirely) to the owner/manager/nontipped staff.
     
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  7. GusW

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    No, you can't just toss money. You have to have a kind of moment of understanding.

    If I am entertaining clients, I will go into a bar, introduce myself to the bartender, say something like "I'm entertaining some clients and I hope you can help me out tonight". I pass them a twenty (sometimes more depending upon the crowd), look at them in the eye and say "Thank you very much". I don't disguise it but I don't make a show of it either. It has almost always resulted in especially good service but I'm not trying to pull this off in the hottest, most jammed club in town either. Generally I get a bunch of comped drinks that evening and often glasses that are never empty. If I return, I am like a friend or at least an associate who has been pre-approved.

    My daughter was coming to a rather stylish bar in NYC with her boss and 6 co-workers who were all in town from California on business. I went in the night before and asked one of the bartenders if he could take care of her and her boss and friends. He said "sure". I think I gave him $40 and told him her name and got his name. She goes in and asks for him. They get seated at a table and immediately drinks start appearing and then a few more rounds. They got charged for one round. The boss and friends are like, "how did you do that ??" and are all impressed.

    I live on a private road. The cost for the neighbors to repave it was like $180K. The specs were 4" of asphalt. I headed the committee to get it done. On the first day of work, I went out to the foreman of the crew. I told him how much I appreciated his work (they had just started) and I looked him in the eye and said 'Thank you very much" and gave him $400 and said to share it with his crew. I then said, "Hey, there are a few areas here that could use a little attention. He was happy to help. He then started to adjust the amount of asphalt from 4" to 6-8" in many areas. They ran out of asphalt trucks several times over two days of work. That $400 probably bought $15K of asphault on-the-house.

    I've got a lot more of these....
     
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    Aware


    Germans are rather poor tippers. I guess that theory goes out the window...
     
  9. Rambo

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    Fascinating. I could see that working at a bar, but how do you swing that with a waiter if you're sitting down for dinner?
     
  10. aj_del

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    In India, most restaurants these days impose a 10% service charge. This is different from the govt taxes and go to the restaurant management. In the few restaurants, which do not impose the mandatory service charge, I usually leave between 10-15% which I assume goes to the waiting/kitchen staff. In the restaurants where they charge service charge, I leave around 5% mostly because of the guilt as leaving nothing for the waiting staff seems stingy but I dont want to leave more as already paid 10% with the bill. It is the waiting staff's problem that the management is greedy and took their tips and made it into a service charge and didnt share it with them.

    I have followed the tipping threads on and off and have always got the impression that Americans are a little obsessed with tipping. Of course, it was possible that I am extremely stingy. So, I asked my facebook friends, how much they leave in restaurants where there is a mandatory service charge. All said that they leave zero, with the reasoning, if the restaurant is charging for service through the service charge, why should they leave a tip. If the discretionary amount has been institutionalized by the establishment, why is there an expectation of tips by the staff.

    It turned out that I was the only one of my facebook friends who was leaving anything. Most just pay the exact amount of bill by CC so the question of change does not arise.

    Regardless of what Indians do in India, Indians in America should be doing what local customs and culture dictate.
     
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    Thank you being the exception that proves the rule. If you people would be better, SF wouldn't hate people like you.
     
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    Just for the record, it's way more fun to make fun of people who don't get sarcasm. And also, he used "BlackKidLA" because LA Guy was already taken, and LA Kid would have made him look like my sidekick.
     
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    its odd. my gf does party planning for children's bday parties and says that indians tip more often and much much more than any other ethnicity.
     
  15. rtuthtold

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    post below is a liar. Habitual not tipping is stealing. Period. You agree when you SIT DOWN, that you will compensate wages for the server based on their performance. If you don't like it, take your food to go, eat at home and serve yourself. So yes, Indians SHOULD be forced to acclimate or not be allowed to actually sit down in the restaurant.
     
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    Indians, Asians, Germans, blacks, then Latins worst tippers in that order.

    Most pains in the asses: Indian women, Latin men, Latin women, Indian guys, Asians, blacks, then Germans.

    It's really funny to me how people abroad gripe about Americans beingbterrible guests in their country. Holy fuck have I wanted to choke out so many foreigners. They show a complete lack of understanding of American customs. I think Americans are probably more crass, but I have seen some really terrible behavior from foreign people. Snapping and clapping at people like they are dogs. Banging the table or bar top for attention. Getting major attitudes because we do not accept their foreign issues ID's. Latin people are incredibly demeaning to service industry workers.
     
  18. indesertum

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    what other nation besides the US tips so much?

    i think it's a really odd custom and seems disproportionately in favor of the people that bring you the food versus the ones that make it. waiters making $20/hour for working 5, 6 hours and chefs make $12-$14 and work 14 hours a day

    seems like the onus should be on the restaurant owner to price it into the menu. i think the 18% service charge split between waitstaff, buspeople, and cooks makes much more sense.
     
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    Dumb necropoast but whatever.
    Percentage tipping is absolutely stupid. It leads to worse service ('Are you all done with that?') that people have unfortunately come to expect as ideal. And then there's the simple fact that paying a higher tip because of ordering higher-priced meals or beverages is ridiculous.
     
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  20. taxgenius

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    +1 the waiter didn't work harder because I decided for the more expensive steak.
     
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