1. Welcome to the new Styleforum!

    We hope you’re as excited as we are to hang out in the new place. There are more new features that we’ll announce in the near future, but for now we hope you’ll enjoy the new site.

    We are currently fine-tuning the forum for your browsing pleasure, so bear with any lingering dust as we work to make Styleforum even more awesome than it was.

    Oh, and don’t forget to head over to the Styleforum Journal, because we’re giving away two pairs of Carmina shoes to celebrate our move!

    Please address any questions about using the new forum to support@styleforum.net

    Cheers,

    The Styleforum Team

    Dismiss Notice

NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. foodguy

    foodguy Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,831
    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2009
    Location:
    At the corner of hipster and hip replacement
    
    well, that didn't last long.
     
    1 person likes this.
  2. Neo_Version 7

    Neo_Version 7 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    19,625
    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2007
    :crackup:
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2014
  3. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    16,312
    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2006
     
  4. Kid Nickels

    Kid Nickels Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,658
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2010
    Location:
    Zulu minus 7
    

    he's a large dude and certainly strong... but for an NBA big man, my god what a fucking pussy Da-wight (Chris Broussard voice) is. :nodding:
     
  5. HRoi

    HRoi Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    17,796
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Agree completely
     
  6. idfnl

    idfnl Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    14,337
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2008
    Location:
    VA
    

    "Rules" is a loose term. Some are unwritten. Some rules blatantly ignored.

    Star treatment #1 - defenders get called early and often on stars (the Raja Bell treatment). #2, starts almost never get called for fouls... didn't LJ go 6 entire games last season without committing a foul? The net result being they always get their minutes and thus always get their numbers.

    A walk being 4 steps now. Touch fouls everywhere (all contact now is basically a foul). Hand checking outlawed. The rule changes around charging under the basket. There is plenty more.


    Lots of comments in this thread about how games now are score-a-thons. Interesting how you choose mine to retort. I watched enough of that game to see how egregious LeBron's chosen one status is in the Assn. And he still has the most annoying bitch face in the history of the NBA (besides the point but chucking it in there).

    Carmelo's monster a while back was pretty impressive, even considering the run and gun nature of the league now. But too many average guys are breaking out with big games all the time.

    The league wants scoring, we all know that. I'm surprised you're bothering to contest my point.
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2014
  7. HRoi

    HRoi Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    17,796
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    
    You're right about this part. I should have heeded indesertum's advice on this. But for the benefit of people who actually care about data and might be wondering:

    http://sportslistoftheday.com/2012/11/07/nba-league-scoring-averages-1946-47-through-2011-12/

    I couldn't find a list that had 2012-2013 data on it. But here are your league scoring averages by season:

    2011-12 NBA 96.3
    2010-11 NBA 99.6
    2009-10 NBA 100.4
    2008-09 NBA 100.0
    2007-08 NBA 99.9
    2006-07 NBA 98.7
    2005-06 NBA 97.0
    2004-05 NBA 97.2
    2003-04 NBA 93.4
    2002-03 NBA 95.1
    2001-02 NBA 95.5
    2000-01 NBA 94.8
    1999-00 NBA 97.5
    1998-99 NBA 91.6
    1997-98 NBA 95.6
    1996-97 NBA 96.9
    1995-96 NBA 99.5
    1994-95 NBA 101.4
    1993-94 NBA 101.5
    1992-93 NBA 105.3
    1991-92 NBA 105.3
    1990-91 NBA 106.3
    1989-90 NBA 107.0
    1988-89 NBA 109.2
    1987-88 NBA 108.2
    1986-87 NBA 109.9
    1985-86 NBA 110.2
    1984-85 NBA 110.8
    1983-84 NBA 110.1
    1982-83 NBA 108.5
    1981-82 NBA 108.6
    1980-81 NBA 108.1
    1979-80 NBA 109.3
    1978-79 NBA 110.3
    1977-78 NBA 108.5
    1976-77 NBA 106.5
    1975-76 NBA 104.3
    1974-75 NBA 102.6
    1973-74 NBA 105.7
    1972-73 NBA 107.6
    1971-72 NBA 110.2
    1970-71 NBA 112.4
    1969-70 NBA 116.7
    1968-69 NBA 112.3
    1967-68 NBA 116.6
    1966-67 NBA 117.4
    1965-66 NBA 115.5
    1964-65 NBA 110.6
    1963-64 NBA 111.0
    1962-63 NBA 115.3
    1961-62 NBA 118.8
    1960-61 NBA 118.1
    1959-60 NBA 115.3
    1958-59 NBA 108.2
    1957-58 NBA 106.6
    1956-57 NBA 99.6
    1955-56 NBA 99.0
    1954-55 NBA 93.1
    1953-54 NBA 79.5
    1952-53 NBA 82.7
    1951-52 NBA 83.7
    1950-51 NBA 84.1
    1949-50 NBA 80.0
    1948-49 BAA 80.0

    Charlotte's opponents score 97.3 ppg against them per season, that's 5th best in the league
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2014
    2 people like this.
  8. HRoi

    HRoi Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    17,796
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    ^ the 97.3 is for the 2013-2014 season, for some reason I can't edit the last sentence of the abovd
     
  9. ethanm

    ethanm Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,614
    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2011
    Location:
    أرض العزم
  10. Kid Nickels

    Kid Nickels Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,658
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2010
    Location:
    Zulu minus 7
    Those scoring averages are interesting. Clippers certainly contributed tonight by absolutely shellacking the Lakers. Damn their D sux.

    [​IMG]

    "I'm not making excuses, but I'm not a big fans of the jerseys," said James

    :crackup:

    Ummm... ya you just did bro. I remember I learned that word in school... "excuse". Oh, no wonder LBJ doesn't understand what it means.
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2014
    1 person likes this.
  11. idfnl

    idfnl Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    14,337
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2008
    Location:
    VA
    

    Statistics are notorious for redirecting a discussion. I made no claims about scoring averages. Thanks for fact checking, and you might get a few thumbs up, but it doesn't mean much since its beside my point. Although, now that the list is there, you can see a clear trend upwards in scoring from '93 on. Regardless.

    I'll restate in different terms and perhaps you can address the actual point I was making. The entertainment value for me is diminished. It looks too easy now in part for the reasons I stated. The games are now an exercise in marketing and branding which cannot be represented in your list of scoring averages. And I don't seem to be the only one to identify this trend of boring, yet high scoring and close games which generate highlight reels for ESPN.
     
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2014
  12. ethanm

    ethanm Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,614
    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2011
    Location:
    أرض العزم
    Redirecting them in an evidence driven direction? The kind of direction that yields truth?
     
    1 person likes this.
  13. HRoi

    HRoi Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    17,796
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Lol. Your initial point was that Lebron's scoring outburst was not impressive because "scoring is too easy now". I showed you simple data that says that it isn't. Now we're talking about entertainment value? All over the interwebs, a million Patrick Stewart gifs are shouting "pick me!"

    Funny how you're impressed at melo's scoring but Lebron's performance is bullshit. Is it because Melo scored one more point?

    Anyway, I think I've made my point here.
     
    2 people like this.
  14. idfnl

    idfnl Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    14,337
    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2008
    Location:
    VA
    

    No, and thus the curse of the fact checkers. It's a bit non-nonsensical to chuck statistics at me when I made no factual claim about scoring averages. I stated an opinion.

    For example, a few pages back, I talked about how I downloaded and re-watched the entire 7 game Laker-Celtics '84 finals. Those were high scoring games, but they were brilliant to watch, very entertaining, great basketball. Watching that series now as an adult shifted my views on the current NBA a lot. Thus, my posts previous.

    Lakers - Celtics '84

    109-115
    124-121 OT
    137-104
    125-129 OT
    121-103
    119-108
    111-102

    (posted scores so the fact checkers don't have to check)



    No, Hroi. Not at all. I can separate my distaste for LeBron's antics and favoritism towards him and identify quality play. My opinion is Melo's performance was more impressive. And I don't like Melo. You're awfully defensive about this.

    We were always talking about entertainment value. There is a difference between statistics and scoring LOOKING too easy. Watch those '84 games and see how many travel violations were whistled. It looks easy when guys are getting away with 3 and sometimes 4 steps. There aren't stats for things like that, but you seem insistent that there are.

    I could give a shit what final scores are, I want to see competitive basketball and I'm not seeing a lot of it anymore. Have fun with your facts and stats. I think we're talking past each other. You've made a point, but its weakly presented and has little to do with my comments.

    I will provide an analogy which might help clarify what I am trying to say. Formula 1 used to look incredibly difficult from in car cameras... gear shifts, see saw steering wheel, immense vibrations, a real sensation that this driver was on the verge of death. Smash cut 20 years later to now, these guys look like they are Sunday driving. That's the crux. It looks too easy and its less fun to watch.
     
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2014
  15. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    16,312
    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2006
  16. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    16,312
    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2006
    So this is how it feels to see others fall for idfnl's trap?
     
    1 person likes this.
  17. jet

    jet Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    20,965
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Location:
    socal
    lol I can't believe dudes got trolled again
     
  18. foodguy

    foodguy Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,831
    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2009
    Location:
    At the corner of hipster and hip replacement
    
    i watched about 2 minutes of that game. coming out of halftime, down something like 35 points, lakers immediately turn over the inbounds pass for a layup. they camera went to mda and i thought he was going to break down and cry right there.
     
    1 person likes this.
  19. indesertum

    indesertum Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    17,862
    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2007
    Location:
    omicron persei 8

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by