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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. guster

    guster Well-Known Member

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    Kidd is a great point guard, passer and excellnet defender. But you have to be kidding trying to defend him as a "great shooter".

    His all time FG% is .403. His all time 3ptFG% is .349. Both are below the NBA average for guards. In his 2nd best ever FG% shooting year '09/10 he shot .423. Which places him around 40th for guards in the NBA. He has been a much better shooter from 3 point range. In the last 3 years you give he finished 7th, 19th and 35th for Guards in 3 point shooting.

    My point was that Rondo should work on his game and become a much better shooter - just like Kidd did. Early in his career, teams played off Kidd - just like they do Rondo. Kidd developed into an very good 3 point shooter. Still not as strong with overall shooting. And even though Kidd shot very well from 3pt range in more recent years, overall he is an average shooter, not great.


    kidd averaged over 40% from 3 point range in 2007, 2008, 2009

    thats great 3 point shooting.
     
  2. Steve B.

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    As much I want to gloat about the Spurs losing, I am more pissed that Portland won. It makes it more difficult for the Clips to make that 8th spot. [​IMG]

    Can't be mad at Aldridge though, 40/11/2/3/1.


    They're just coasting, waiting for the playoffs.

    Blair's numbers are getting better and better, even Better than Bynum's. Nevertheless, I'd be very pleasantly surprised if the Spurs beat the Lakers tomorrow night.
     
  3. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering why Artest wasn't getting much burn on the court lately, fuck, looks like an implosion is coming pretty soon.

    Trade Artest and Bynum for Carmelo... NOW!!!!
    Do it Mitch!
     
  4. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering why Artest wasn't getting much burn on the court lately, fuck, looks like an implosion is coming pretty soon.



    Trade Artest and Bynum for Carmelo... NOW!!!!
    Do it Mitch!


    no.
    i think it is premature to act on a few games lost right now. i see artest not being that bad of a player to be honest and will be better as playoffs near. bynum is playing well. i dont get this.
     
  5. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

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    Yes if it is doable. Artest is a head case, his manage has denied the rumors but it's not because of the losses, it's because Jackson hasn't used him lately. He got Walton guarding Pierce on Sunday for the most part, fucking Walton. I mean there must be something happening to be buried behind him. Last night, they went on a small line-up and it's not so that they can switch it up and rotate either because the Lakers clearly didn't do that last night. Artest should have been guarding Martin so Kobe doesn't exhaust himself on defense.

    As for Bynum, injuries man, injuries. His knee is hurt again, good news is it's not the one that had the surgery. The bad news is, it is another injury. He is playing well and if that is enough bait to get him traded for someone that are less prone to injury, I'd do it.

    Really now, if Denver offered Melo for Bynum and Artest, I'd take that trade. The Lakers are getting old, Kobe has a few years left as the top dog. Melo could be that new face LA will be looking for once Kobe steps down or becomes a secondary option on offense. Right now, the way Odom has been playing, I think they can afford to lose Bynum and have a decent back-up center that just defends.
     
  6. foodguy

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    personally, i'd be happier right now trading artest and gasol ... i still think bynum is going to be the "carrier" that drives the team into the next decade. i think artest is just too unpredictable about whether he's going to show up to play or not. and i'm afraid gasol, whom i dearly love, is probably too smart to play this much basketball and just doesn't have the heart for the long run.
     
  7. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

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    Nah, that's crazy. Pau is still one of the most skilled big man out there, if not the best. You'd be loko to let go of him. He's had his dry spells this season but it hasn't been the most terrible. He was playing much better before Bynum returned but come playoff time, Pau will be more reliable than Bynum. Bynums injury just irritates me and the fact that he postponed his operation this past summer for 3-4 weeks was just frustrating. I mean wouldn't he want to get it done as soon as possible to leave him more time to recover before the season started?
     
  8. foodguy

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    as i understand it, he delayed with the approval of the laker staff, then when they got in to correct, they found it was different than what had been diagnosed and would require a longer heal-time.
    i love pau and his game ... but i've just got this feeling that he's lost the fire. i should also say, that i think there is probably something a little odd about anyone in their 30s who still is consumed by the game the way the kobes, magics, jordans and birds are/were.
     
  9. sho'nuff

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    no one has lost the finals , no one has lost the first round yet. whirlwind of comments, criticisms, and trade speculations. i want to keep pau, bynum and artest. even AS IS, we still have the most potential to win the finals . artest and jackson will sort it out.
     
  10. 13k

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    no one has lost the finals , no one has lost the first round yet. whirlwind of comments, criticisms, and trade speculations. i want to keep pau, bynum and artest. even AS IS, we still have the most potential to win the finals . artest and jackson will sort it out.

    Truth.

    Pau is kinda soft again this year. There's just no passion in his play. He still with his girl Silvia... makes me wonder if trouble at home carried into his game.
     
  11. foodguy

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    Truth.

    Pau is kinda soft again this year. There's just no passion in his play. He still with his girl Silvia... makes me wonder if trouble at home carried into his game.


    Honestly, I think he's probably too smart and too well-adjusted to be a basketball player for this long. that's not necessarily a knock against the kobes of the world, but you have to admit that their worldview is fairly limited. to get to that level and stay at that level as long as they have takes a dedication and concentration (to what is, after all, a child's game) that is abnormal. Rather than his girlfriend distracting him, I'd probably put it down more to his visits to childrens hospitals.
     
  12. embowafa

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    No way you trade Pau. You don't even think about it. He's lost the "fire" the way any other player not named Kobe or MJ lost the fire...by winning two in a row. You almost have to be not human (see: KB24 or MJ23) to maintain that elite/redline level of intensity or "fire" for 82 regular season games + 3 full playoff runs + olympics + euro basketball.

    He'll be fine for the playoffs.
     
  13. foodguy

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    i hope you're right. i really do like the guy.
     
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    kobe on conan:
     
  15. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Well-Known Member

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    i like these nba headlines from sites like espn, AP, realGM, etc these days:

    "Artest looking to be traded!"

    "Artest says he never said he wanted to be traded!"

    "carmelo will not sign extension and wants to go to NJ!"

    "carmelo said he never wanted to be traded"

    "CP wants out of new orleans!"

    "CP said he never wanted out of New orleans"

    shees
     
  16. 13k

    13k Well-Known Member

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    These reporters are the TMZ of the sports world. Drama. I hope Pau shows up tonight vs. TD.
     
  17. embowafa

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    again.

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  18. Steve B.

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    These reporters are the TMZ of the sports world. Drama. I hope Pau shows up tonight vs. TD.

    Shaq used to own Duncan.
     
  19. foodguy

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    shaq used to own everybody. now he looks like a bus driver in a ymca game.
     
  20. sexandcandy

    sexandcandy Well-Known Member

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    i have respect for tim duncan and his body of work, but he has no business being an all-star this year, even out of respect. lamarcus aldridge, kevin love, zach randolph and even lamar odom deserve it more than he does. what a joke

    also i find it crazy that four celtics made it to the all-star team, but they're certainly deserving. all avering career highs in fg% and they're clearly the team to beat in the east.
     

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