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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. jet

    jet Well-Known Member

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    yessir
     
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    You go girl
     
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    fuck ya
     
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    If you :fonz: .500
     
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    Most Lakers fans [​IMG]
     
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    New Jersey has been very surprising to me so far. They have a good to very good starting 5, have a solid bench and yet are basically a .500 team :confused: Williams is playing subpar and Lopez missed some games but when you think about a team starting Williams, Johnson, Wallace, Humphries and Lopez with Blatche, Evans, Watson, Bogans coming off the bench, this team should have 5-6 more wins and should definitely not be losing 3-5 straight. A coaching change might be needed.
     
  10. dopey

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    I was really impressed by two things, which I had not noticed before.

    1) Anthony has really changed his game in a positive way. He still shoots a lot and is the team's most reliable scorer, BUT he is no longer a black hole. He is passing very well, and if it is not showing up in his assist numbers, it is still reflected in the offense's efficiency. Anthony breaks down defenses just by having the ball, and when he passes, it often results in something good. Several times, I saw the play go from Anthony with the ball, to a collapsed defense, to a pick-and-roll or two quick passes and a shot. I have never been a Melo fan, but ball don't lie.


    2) Jason Kidd still has something. Despite being a bit slow(er), his passing is unbelievably good because he is not only accurate, but aggressive and creative, without being foolish. I am convinced his presence improves Felton. I kept thinking how much pressure there must on a young point-guard with Kidd as the two- guard looking over his shoulder. There is simply no room to be a cocky f-up with a guy like Kidd around, especially when Kidd STILL does a lot of things better than you. I am guessing it serves as a bit of a check, but also with some inspiration and mentoring thrown in.

    And since I can't count:
    3) Tyson Chandler was a monster with something like five alley-oops, mostly off the pick and roll, but also backdoor cuts. And I think from three different passers. And his defense was great (no one but Lopez got anything done inside)
     
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    maybe jerry sloan? how about jvg? svg? philjax?
     
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    Number 1 has been the biggest difference as everyone feeds off it. I can't count the number of times Melo would demand the ball and put up a crazy shot then to be followed by JR Smith or whoever jack up a crazy shot next time down. This season, while he still has the occasional Melo moment, he passes the ball when the shot is not there and everyone else follows suit. JR Smith in particular has had much better shot selection this year and I think that is a result of Melo/Kidd

    Number 2, I'm shocked at how well Kidd is still playing and how he still commands the floor when he is on. When he wants to bring the ball up and direct the offense, he does. When he is off the ball, he is directing the teammates on where to be on the floor. Even in the timeouts, he is explaning the plays to the other guys. And his 3 point shooting has been good enough where the defense gets stretched because they have to stay up on him

    Number 3, he was a monster yesterday. How many pick and rolls did he run last year post-Lin? Zero? This year him and Felton are the number one duo on pick and rolls and again, it goes back to Melo letting others command the ball and get plays rather than him hogging it.
     
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    You are right. I forgot to mention his three-point shooting. He worked on that and it shows.
    On a related note -- something I saw last night, which made me cringe, pointed out the difference between a player like Felton and Kidd. At some point where the score was close, maybe even when the Nets had pulled ahead (in the third, I think), Felton brought the ball up and as soon as he crossed the half-court line he handed the ball to Melo, literally. A hand-off. It was like he was helpless and said "you do something, I can't." I saw that as the point-guard just giving up and not knowing what to do. I couldn't imagine Kidd doing that (unless it was to run a set play). I don't remember, but I would bet Kidd wasn't in the game at that point. Felton is having a good year, but that sequence really bothered me.
     
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    I blame Deron Williams. Guy is not a team player at all and seems like a borderline cancer.
     
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    I have not been a close follower of Williams's game, but last night he did a pretty nice job of running the point and setting up his teammates. I didn't notice much in the way of sophisticated plays, but he certainly managed to break down the defense off the dribble and then find the open man as the Knicks rotated to him. I have no idea what he is like in the locker-room or as a team leader on the floor, but he certainly does his point-guard job well.
     
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    excuse me. jet and i were trying to have a conversation about the lakers. do you mind?
     
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    Felton has two issues that he needs to work on. He occasionally loses confidence and "disappears" in the middle of a game (not unlike Lin). He also sometimes goes into "scoring" mode and he will chuck up a shot the minute he crosses the half court line, whether any of his teammates are back or not and whether he is 6 for 8 or 2 for 12.
     
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    is Nash coming back next week
     
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    probably. lakers. baby. lakers.
    in the meantime, clips have run off 11 straight. they're playing with a lot of confidence, but they have played a lot of middle-tier teams. the real test will come when the string gets broken and they have to bounce back against tough competition. that's hard for young teams.
     
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    But will getting Nash back be enough to right the sinking ship?

    I think not.

    Right now it's looking like OKC and Memphis.
     

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