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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. NorCal

    NorCal Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but the team is not any better, one year older and so on. More than anything they jsut looked so unLakerish, getting shafted on the big trades and not picking up any decent pieces, although I do like the McRoberts pick up.

    So, just a thought, but do you think the LAkers could trade Kobe, and what could they get for him? I know it's blasphemy but if they could retool and get younger. . . maybe somebody would overpay. Kobe for Dwight? Dwight and a #1? Kobe for D-Will and four # 1's? How far could they take it?
     
  2. foodguy

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    yeah, that one jump shot that he got the and-one, he was really up there. still didn't play much D, and it was interesting that brown called him out on it afterward. brown does seem to be a lot more interventionist as a coach than Jackson was (well, most anyone would be). he called that quick time after those back-to-back paul layups. did it again in the second half.
     
  3. foodguy

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    iirc, kobe has a no-trade clause in his contract.
     
  4. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

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    They could trade Kobe to a small market team for some pieces but no one in their right mind would trade any young superstars for him, Kobe is practically 40 in basketball years, dude's had so many game since he was 18. He is good shape but his prime has passed. He is still good but his on a downfall so no smart GM would trade for him for Dwight, DRose, DWill, etc...

    Kobe will be a Laker forever and doesn't he have the right to veto any trades involving him? Isn't that why he had so much power when the talks of him going to the Bulls was shut down, he vetoes it when he found out Deng was included in the trade but he wanted him to stay.

    I think the Lakers has more front court depth now with McRoberts and Murphy. They still need a PG though but they put Artest as the 6th man in hopes that he'd score more so we'll see how that experiment works. If Ebanks turns even to a fraction of what Ariza could do, he might be able to help as well.
     
  5. foodguy

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    i liked mcroberts, at least in the first half. looks like a good "glue" player.
     
  6. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

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    He's a hustle player and I got a bit of a sigh of relief when I saw Murphy sink a 3-pointer. With him and Kapono on the court, it can open things up for Kobe to drive. Again, just need a solid PG that can run around distributing the ball. It isn't about the triangle anymore so Fisher is more useless than ever these days.
     
  7. embowafa

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    McRoberts...good.

    The rest...bad :(

    I hope all this team needs is some time to gel.
     
  8. foodguy

    foodguy Well-Known Member

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    and that new guy ... can't remember his name ... doesn't he have smush parker written all over him?
     
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    yeah...who the F is that guy. how do we go from Chris Paul to...THAT GUY.

    :brick:

    This is going to be the longest short season ever.
     
  10. gettoasty

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    I watched glimpse of the LA vc Clipper game at the gym....

    So I do not own cable, am I SOL in watching these games until some are nationally televised? :fu:
     
  11. moffy

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    The amnesty period is over, so they can't amnesty Walton or World Peace this year. But that makes sense. This may seem far fetched right now, but Walton will be an asset next year. Or at least his $7M expiring contract will. Makes a lot more sense to both trade Walton next year and amnesty World Peace at the same time.
     
  12. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

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    Who would want Walton?
    MWP at least has some value, I'm sure Miami could use him. :lol:
     
  13. moffy

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    basically some team that's looking to cut costs by dumping a player with a longer contract. MWP has 2 years and $15M left on his deal after this year. i think the market for him is smaller than for walton.

    if there is a buyer for kwame, there is probably a buyer for walton.

    edit: not to mention, after next year, the luxury tax gets a whole lot harsher. that last year on artest's contract will cost the laker's at least $17.5M. ($7M for his contract + 1.5 x 7 (at least 1.5. can be 1.75, 2.5, 3.25, depending how far over the tax they are) )
     
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  14. deveandepot1

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    The Lakers were crap last night. However, I hope Mitch doesn't do a stupid trade. Vegas and most pundits still give them the best odds of taking the West.
    If they don't pick up Howard or another All Star this year, they will pick one up next year.
     
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    Also, they are an overall younger team than last year and still have some great trade assets.
     
  16. RFX45

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    Eh, MWP has one more year than Walton. Who would I rather keep with the Lakers? MWP. I still think they should have amnestied Walton this year. Walton is a useless piece of bench warmer, MWP actually plays. I don't know why people are hating on him all of a sudden, didn't hear much of these when he helped them repeat but now that they lost last year, which isn't even entirely his fault (even one of the bright spots in the playoffs iirc), everyone wants him out. Dude is still defending like a champ. What the hell has Walton done int he past 5 years? He go two rings by wearing a damn suit on the sidelines.
     
  17. foodguy

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    it's way too early to push the panic button. new coach, new lineup, new offensive and defensive schemes and they've only been practicing for less than a week. Same is true for the Clips, of course, but they played a much more generic and much less regimented system to start with. i noticed lots of times players just seemed to be wandering around the court. or that things were obviously wrong ... a player would take the ball in the post, turn ... and there would be a teammate right beside him. they've got some serious kink-working to do, to be sure. and with bynum out for the first 5 games (almost 10% of the season!), it's going to get sticky.
     
  18. jet

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    Seriously, it's one game.
     
  19. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not worried about 1 pre-season game but you guys know I've lobbying to get Walton out for maybe 3-4 years now. How much more does the Lakers have to pay this bum to sit on the bench or brick an open 3 or post up worse than Lebron?
     
  20. moffy

    moffy Well-Known Member

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    i'm not clamoring for MWP to be amnestied, but i just think it is the smarter busines decision. if you amnesty walton, you're still going to pay him his $6M per year for two years and you're not going to go under the luxury tax or create any cap space to sign someone. you're just going to be paying him to sit at home instead of on your bench.

    so why not keep him for at least a year? if you can't get anything for his expiring contract in the offseason next year, then you can still amnesty him then. though i still think they're going to hold onto it until the first year of the harsher luxury tax kicks in. or when they make a huge trade and need some tax relief...
     

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