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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. whodini

    whodini Well-Known Member

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    Not necessarily. I think the Gasol-to-LA trade proved that teams can be suckered into lower salaries, pessimistic projections, laughable upsides, and general stupidity. I Bynum/a few others/picks for not having to pay DH's contract for a team already close or over the luxury limit? And considering the new luxury tax rules, it might be harder for a small-market team to come up with that kind of capital.

    It's all speculation but there's no f'ing way the Lakers weren't going to two-step this deal. It would have taken another multi-team trade but I don't see getting DH as improbable or impossible as some.
     
  2. moffy

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...dan_gilbert_email_lakers_hornets_trade_120811

    Commissioner,

    It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.
    This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.
    Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.
    I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

    I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.
    I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.
    When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?
    Please advise….

    Dan G.
     
  3. 13k

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    ^^^ Literaly about to post that. What a cockblock. Just cuz he's sour he didnt make the decision to trade LeBron while he still had him doesn't mean others should pay from learning from his mistake.
     
  4. moffy

    moffy Well-Known Member

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    hopefully the original letter wasn't in comic sans this time.
     
  5. venessian

    venessian Well-Known Member

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    Sure, but the reaction is to the only thing that seemed certain at the time. A possible Howard trade was still speculative, and if that did not happen the Gasol/Odom for CP3 trade was not good imo.
    :lol::lol::lol:
    Are you serious? Those 3 for CP3 and Okafor? That would be crazy. You don't ever trade 2 bigs for 1 small, imo; trading 3 bigs for a small and a PF would be nuts. The lineup would be PG Paul, SG Bryant, SF Artest, PF Okafor, and C...Theo Ratliff???
    That letter is insane. Gilbert is totally nuts. But it does prove the NBA lied when they said the owners did NOT approach them asking to block the trade.
     
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  7. venessian

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    Just read that...what a crazy day.

    But is Dwight + Turkoglu's contract for Brook Lopez and 2 NJ first-round picks the best the Magic can do?
     
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  8. moffy

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    makes sense for dwight. if you can't play with paul, might as well play with d-will.
     
  9. venessian

    venessian Well-Known Member

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    Pretty funny tweets from players re: CP3, Gilbert, etc....

    TheRealTWill Terrence Williams
    It's krazy @CP3 is not waking up a laker and it's dumb I'm not able to run that pick and roll with gasol smh sad disappointing day 4 NBA

    jrich23 Jason Richardson
    RT @LyleHoneyman: @jrich23 No idea what he's thinking, players won't want to go play for an owner like him (I totally agree)

    dgranger33 Danny Granger
    Due to the sabotaging of the LA/NO trade by david stern, and following in the footsteps of my athlete brethern Metta World Peace and Chad Ochocinco, I'm changing my last name to "Stern's Bi#&h" #effectiveimmediately :lol:

    jrich23 Jason Richardson
    Once again Buck Nasty a.k.a Dan Gilbert is letting his wrath being felt by being the main voice in the CP trade block.
     
  10. venessian

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    For Dwight sure, but for Orlando? I’d think they would rather have Bynum, etc, than Lopez + 2 picks.
     
  11. moffy

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    ya, i think they can do better than that. but you never know, GMs love draft picks because they end up being cheap players or trade bait.
     
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    There's gonna be a shitstorm at training camps tomorrow. A lot of unhappy players that will be reporting to camp.

    I believe the Dan Gilbert letter was in comic sans again...
     
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    Shitstorm indeed. This is really crazy: It's now being reported that Pau Gasol's agent, Arn Tellem, is the person who orchestrated the owners in getting Stern to block the CP3 trade. This could get bad on so many fronts.... CP3Gate!!! PauGate!!! GilbertGate!!! SternGate!!!
     
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    So glad this season wasn't horribly ugly to begin with, otherwise this trade fiasco would look really, really fucking stupid.
     
  15. AldenPyle

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    Stern is so far ahead of us we can't even see him: 1) Basketball in New Orleans is dead; 2) Dan Gilbert takes the blame (who do you think leaked the above email); 3) Chris Paul will still end up on big market team next year; 4) Hornets will get even less compensation for losing him. Mission accomplished.
     
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  16. HRoi

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    btw, how can this not have antitrust implications? when you appoint 29 guys as trustees of a company/team each of them are competing with, you have to have checks and balances so shit like this doesn't happen.

    they clearly didn't make the decision in the best interest of the team they were supposed to look after. they did it for themselves. total conflict of interests at best, outright corruption and collusion at worst.

    about the trade itself, it's not that lopsided. Lakers lose Pau and Lamar, get CP3.

    and now the Hornets lose huge, because they have a huge risk of losing Paul for nothing. i don't know why they have to get Houston involved, i'd rather have Paul/Lamar than Kevin Martin (possibly the most irrelevant 20 ppg scorer in NBA history), Scola (who admittedly is nice), and other shit. but that's a different discussion altogether
     
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    What about this Tyson Chandler business to the Knicks?

    The NBA is looking more like European football leagues every day. In Europe, regardless of the country its the same few teams always at the top and the best players always migrate to a group of a few teams. Those teams have the funds to buy the players.

    Now its happening in the NBA, but its all about the glam of where you live since the $ is more or less the same everywhere (at least compared to Europe where some teams have 100x the spending power of other teams in the same league)
     
  18. eddievddr10

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    ding! ding! ding!
    

    k8 plus 12
     
  19. Ambulance Chaser

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    Occupy NBA!

    As much as the small-market teams hate to hear this, competitive imbalance makes the NBA more, not less, popular. Look at its growth during the 80s, which were dominated by the Lakers, Celtics, Sixers, and Pistons.
     
  20. moffy

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    "Sources say Brandon Roy to announce medical retirement due to degenerative knees, possibly as soon as today"

    this is really fucking sad.
     

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