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NBA 2016-2017 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. sunror

    sunror Well-Known Member

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    i see no reason to think the lakers wont make the finals and i dont think okc has the personnel to beat them

    id take the spurs over them but i dont think la will face a serious challenge
     
  2. sho'nuff

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    it will be Lakers vs Boston , Orlando , or Miami
     
  3. thats.mana

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    ^^I would love to see that game.
    Woohoo one more month!! I'll probably go to a pre-season game I can hardly wait.
     
  4. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Well-Known Member

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    this is how i forsee the playoffs picture:


    1 Lakers
    2 dallas
    3 okc.......................1 Lakers
    4 san antonio..........4 san antonio.......1 Lakers............1 Lakers
    5 portland...............7 utah...................3 okc
    6 denver.................3 okc
    7 utah
    8 clippers



    east:

    ------>> miami or orlando or boston (boston most likely)
     
  5. Rambo

    Rambo Well-Known Member

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    If Chicago lands Carmello, which is a long shot, I think they'll be the team to beat in the East.
     
  6. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Chicago can afford another star player w/o letting anyone go.
     
  7. Rambo

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    I don't think Chicago can afford another star player w/o letting anyone go.
    Well Denver isn't exactly giving him away for free you know...
     
  8. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

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    That is true but who can Chicago give for a trade that will equal Carmelo?
    Unless Denver is going to accept Deng plus scrubs for Melo, I just do not see it happening.
    If I were Denver, I wouldn't take anyone less than Rose for Melo, maybe add Deng or Noah with Rose.
     
  9. Rambo

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    That is true but who can Chicago give for a trade that will equal Carmelo? Unless Denver is going to accept Deng plus scrubs for Melo, I just do not see it happening. If I were Denver, I wouldn't take anyone less than Rose for Melo, maybe add Deng or Noah with Rose.
    First, no way that Chicago would give up Rose. Second, Denver is freaking out that they'll end up with nothing just like Toronto and Cleveland did. They have very limited options at this point and none of the suitors really have much to offer. They're better off taking a pu-pu platter and some picks than getting nothing at all. If Chicago offered Deng, Heinrich, and a couple of #1's I think they'd jump at it.
     
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    First, no way that Chicago would give up Rose. Second, Denver is freaking out that they'll end up with nothing just like Toronto and Cleveland did. They have very limited options at this point and none of the suitors really have much to offer. They're better off taking a pu-pu platter and some picks than getting nothing at all. If Chicago offered Deng, Heinrich, and a couple of #1's I think they'd jump at it.

    Yeah they would. But I dont foresee Chicago doing that either. It's a shame because Carmelo there would be good. I dont even know if Carmelo wants to stick around in Chicago ...since he's from NY.
     
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    Yeah they would. But I dont foresee Chicago doing that either. It's a shame because Carmelo there would be good. I dont even know if Carmelo wants to stick around in Chicago ...since he's from NY.
    NY has nothing to offer and I think Carmello would jump at a chance to play in a big market like Chicago to be able to counter the Miami machine. NewJersey has a god awful team so I can't see him wanting to go there either.
     
  12. mikey34

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    Re: NBA 2010-2011 Season Thread
    1. RFX45
    2. sexandcandy
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    down for h2h, standard 9 category with an extra like offensive boards. Yahoo sports, maybe a small buy in of like $20?

    predictions:

    ROY: I think Blake Griffin will actually be better but Wall will get the award because of all of the playing time and responsibility he will have, I think Cousins will finish 3rd

    MVP: all of the experts are picking Durant or Kobe. I still think the knee issue with Kobe is the understated story of the summer. When something like that happens and you continually have to have it drained or worked on in some way it affects you. I really think the Heat will have the best record in the league by a number of wins (say 4-5) and voters will give it to Lebron again. I think he and Wade will both be dominant but Lebron will assert himself as option #1 on that team by the end of the season. My predictions for his stats: 23 ppg, 8.5 reb, 9.5 asst. Durant could easily win it if he leads them to a 2 seed in the West though.

    DPOY: I don’t see how this doesn’t go to Howard again. The man is just entering his prime still.

    Most Improved: this is always tough. I’m gonna go with Roy Hibbert, not having Murphy there should give him more touches. Javale Mcgee is a close 2nd.

    6th MAN: Going with Landry if they plan to bring him off the bench.

    Seeding of 1-8 in playoffs:

    West: Lakers, Thunder(yep, that's right I have them at #2), Dallas, Portland, Utah, Phoenix, Houston, SA with denver missing the playoffs assuming that melo is gone.

    East: Heat, Magic, Celtics, Hawks, Bulls, Bucks, Bobcats, Wizards

    finals predictions:

    West- lakers vs. okc. lakers taking it

    east- toss up between boston&orlando vs. Heat but doesn't matter cause heat will beat either team.

    NBA champs- Miami Heat

    ps: the heat will win 65+ wins at the least (assuming no major injury to the big 3) and will be close to 72.
     
  13. RFX45

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    NY has nothing to offer and I think Carmello would jump at a chance to play in a big market like Chicago to be able to counter the Miami machine. NewJersey has a god awful team so I can't see him wanting to go there either.

    NYC has a lot to offer, a bigger market and a possible 3some like the Heat has but with Amare and CP3. CP3 and Melo are already planning it, CP3 even joked about it in Melos wedding reception when he made a speech. That can easily counter Miamis big 3. Plus it is NYC, outside of LA, there isn't any bigger market if not the biggest.

    New Jersey actually has a very solid team. Lopez, Favors and Murphy (deadly 3-point threat) is a great big combo. They have Harris and Farmar as PGs, I mean Farmar is ok but Harris is still a pretty damn good scorer. Then they got Morrow as another deadly shooter along with Outlaw, who is a good, athletic all-around player. Terrence Williams showed some signs of being a decent player too. In the end, if Melo were able to go to NJ, that team would be ranked pretty high, this team was set-up for Lebron and I do not see a reason why Melo can't fit in it.
     
  14. RFX45

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    Wow, I am quite surprised you have the Wiz being in the playoffs? I know Wall will be good but in a tough Eastern conference, I might just pick the Sixers or even the Nets or the Pacers over them. Pacers got Collison, dude put up work when CP3 was out last year and that is what the Pacers really needed, a competent PG and they got it. They also have a healthier Dunleavy, a probably improved Hibbert (dude was good when Murphy was out), Posey and Jones (surprised scorer too) as good defenders and a Granger who had a good experienced with the US team. Hansbrough will have more chance to play too since Foster is getting pretty old.

    You also have the Suns ranked high, they have no more big. Their biggest acquisition is Hedo and I am not even sure how his game will work out with Nash since he is a point forward. It didn't work well with Calderon, I don't see it working well with Nash either.

    No way the Heat wins the chip this year, I just don't see it. My mind could change once the season starts or once I see them play together but right now, I just can't call them a surefire champ.

    As for most improved, Hibbert is a good candidate but with Granger, I just don't see him getting many touches. I can see Blatche since he beasted once Jamison left and he could only benefit playing with Wall. Mcgee is too frail and weak.

    ROY, I agree that Wall might get it over Blake unless for some reason Blake leads the Clips to a better playoff spot than 7th or 8th place.

    DPOY, no one is getting that as long as Dwight is playing in his twenties.

    As big of a Kobe fan I am, I just do not see him being an MVP candidate. He is still very good, probably still arguably the best but I can see him being of a less offensive player since they'll be so stacked defensively that they'll have a better transition offense and Kobe usually dominates on iso or triangle. We'll see. I can see Durant winning it just because his stats will be way up, he'll have the scoring title again and Lebron and Wades stats won't be as high.
     
  15. Rambo

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    NYC has a lot to offer, a bigger market and a possible 3some like the Heat has but with Amare and CP3. CP3 and Melo are already planning it, CP3 even joked about it in Melos wedding reception when he made a speech. That can easily counter Miamis big 3. Plus it is NYC, outside of LA, there isn't any bigger market if not the biggest. New Jersey actually has a very solid team. Lopez, Favors and Murphy (deadly 3-point threat) is a great big combo. They have Harris and Farmar as PGs, I mean Farmar is ok but Harris is still a pretty damn good scorer. Then they got Morrow as another deadly shooter along with Outlaw, who is a good, athletic all-around player. Terrence Williams showed some signs of being a decent player too. In the end, if Melo were able to go to NJ, that team would be ranked pretty high, this team was set-up for Lebron and I do not see a reason why Melo can't fit in it.
    I meant that NY has nothing to offer in trade. I don't know how NY can get CP3 when they're already maxed out. NJ sucks. Always will.
     
  16. RFX45

    RFX45 Well-Known Member

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    NY isn't maxed. They got the extra cash for LBJ that didn't fall through. CP3 has no plans of resigning with NO, same with Melo. I am not saying this will happen this year, this will happen in a year or two. They will take pay cuts the way Wade, Bosh and LBJ did just to play with each other, plus they'll make that back just for playing in NYC. Like you said, Denver would rather get scrubs and picks for Melo than nothing and if that is something NYC can offer, Melo will be a very happy man but one way or the other, his plan is to be in NY in the future, along with CP3.

    If Melo is traded somewhere else, since I don't think he has the power to veto a trade like Kobe did in his contract, I am pretty he won't re-sign with that team unless that is a team like NY or maybe NJ because of Jay-Z and his influence. He might re-sign if for some miracle he gets traded to Chicago, but I really do not see that happening. If it happens, it'll be very interesting.
     
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    NY isn't maxed. They got the extra cash for LBJ that didn't fall through. CP3 has no plans of resigning with NO, same with Melo. I am not saying this will happen this year, this will happen in a year or two. They will take pay cuts the way Wade, Bosh and LBJ did just to play with each other, plus they'll make that back just for playing in NYC. Like you said, Denver would rather get scrubs and picks for Melo than nothing and if that is something NYC can offer, Melo will be a very happy man but one way or the other, his plan is to be in NY in the future, along with CP3. If Melo is traded somewhere else, since I don't think he has the power to veto a trade like Kobe did in his contract, I am pretty he won't re-sign with that team unless that is a team like NY or maybe NJ because of Jay-Z and his influence. He might re-sign if for some miracle he gets traded to Chicago, but I really do not see that happening. If it happens, it'll be very interesting.
    I thought that to get Lebron NY had to dump half the roster?
     
  18. RFX45

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    That is why they didn't sign Lee, they needed to get rid of his salary. After Amare signed with NY, they still had enough to get Lebron and that is what they were waiting for. Also keep in mind that the cap was higher by a few million that expected too so they had more room to operate. NY has been saving up and opening up cap space for 5 years just for Lebron. And with the max contract expected to be much lower next year after the negotiations (that is why players are re-signing now to get more money like Durant and what Melo should do) it will make it even more possible to get CP3 and Melo.
     
  19. Rambo

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    That is why they didn't sign Lee, they needed to get rid of his salary. After Amare signed with NY, they still had enough to get Lebron and that is what they were waiting for. Also keep in mind that the cap was higher by a few million that expected too so they had more room to operate. NY has been saving up and opening up cap space for 5 years just for Lebron. And with the max contract expected to be much lower next year after the negotiations (that is why players are re-signing now to get more money like Durant and what Melo should do) it will make it even more possible to get CP3 and Melo.
    They can sign Melo next year if they can't work out a trade but CP3 is on the books until 2012 and there is no way that they can matchup a trade with NewOrleans. Its just not feasible with NY having no 1st rounder until 2014 and NO having an already maxed out roster. They'd have to take back about 5 guys from NY and it ain't happenin'.
     
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    I thought CP3 can opt out next year? If not, in two years he can join. Like I said, I see these guys playing in NY in two years tops.
     

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