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My thorny shoe dilemma -- with pic

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by DocHolliday, Mar 16, 2006.

  1. trogdor

    trogdor Well-Known Member

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    For $40, you might as well grab 'em. I'm not so sure about them myself, but $40 isn't bad for a shoe experiment if, as you concede, you've been thinking about trying something like that. FWIW, I had one Italian friend who could pull off something like these, in suede with a suit. Then again, he was properly Italian and he had so much flair he would have looked good in a spud sack.
     
  2. StevenRocks

    StevenRocks Well-Known Member

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    Doc, they're okay but not great. If it were me, I'd find a pair of shoes that maybe retailed for less than that but cost about the same at purchase that were styled a little more appropriately for wear with suits. I don't often suggest that people go to DSW, but this sounds like a job for a shoe warehouse.
     
  3. Baron

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    GQgeek is right. Who cares about 40 bucks or whatever? Those are just pretty damn ugly shoes. Please don't wear them.


    Amen. Those shoes wouldn't be allowed to rent space in my closet for $40. u-g-l-y, they don't got no alibi.
     
  4. Charley

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    There is a lot to like about the shoes. However, that stitching that continues over the toe ruins it for me. I'd not wear them. If not for that extra stitching, they would be great. I like the pebble grain and the color. Some of the Cole Hann shoes are pretty good style. Especially for $40. But just not these.
     
  5. DocHolliday

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    Sadly, the opinions here have only confirmed my own. The problem with the shoes is that they're ugly. I'm fairly conservative in my shoes choices, and I had hoped that opinion here at fashion-forward StyleForum would change my mind. "Don't be an old fuddy-duddy!" one poster would say. "Italian-style shoes are meant to be daring!" another would proclaim.

    Alas, 'twas not to be. I will stick with nice, dark, English-style shoes until something better comes along.

    Thanks all. This thread was an interesting experiment in its own right.

    Of course, if anyone wants to give these poor shoes some love, please go right ahead.
     
  6. NoVaguy

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    Too much stitching. It would have been better if they got rid of either the moc-stitching or the bicycling stitching. both together is too much. Other than that, they're ok for no-jacket casual, bad with suits and jackets.

    $40 ain't much, but there are better options. You'll probably be happier with something else.
     
  7. tiger02

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    Doc, don't give up hope of wearing light shoes with a suit! Other than the toe stitching there is absolutely nothing wrong with those shoes. At a slightly higher price, you can order a pair of tan leather shoes through Seok, and make all the specifications you want. Follow your urge man, let your inner dandy shine!

    Tom
     
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    I like the style (sans aforementioned toe stitching), and they are a great deal at that price. I'd buy them myself but for (1) don't care for pebblegrain and (2) I already have enough similarly-styled shoes.
     
  10. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Well-Known Member

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    There're also light Enlish-style shoes that look stunning.

    A few of those are light brown ...

    [​IMG]



    Good point, Sysdoc. But that brings me back to my original dilemma: Is it really worth it for me to invest in good-quality light shoes that will get so little wear? I can think of a dozen things right off that I'd wear more often for the same price.

    (Also, in general, my fixation runs more toward suits than shoes.)
     
  11. DocHolliday

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    Doc, don't give up hope of wearing light shoes with a suit! Other than the toe stitching there is absolutely nothing wrong with those shoes. At a slightly higher price, you can order a pair of tan leather shoes through Seok, and make all the specifications you want. Follow your urge man, let your inner dandy shine!

    Tom


    Thanks, Tom. I don't plan to abandon the idea altogether. This is just a conflict between my style desires and bargain-hunting ways.
     
  12. Ambulance Chaser

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    I'm in the "don't buy" camp. Money is fungible, and you are going to find something you would rather spend $40 on.
     
  13. johnapril

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    Don't throw good money after bad.
     
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    There're also light Enlish-style shoes that look stunning.

    A few of those are light brown ...

    [​IMG]


    I'm not the jealous type, but damn you!
     
  15. southbound35

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    I don't want to go all AAAC on you (because I'm hardly trad), but that is a pretty trendy style right now. Johnston and Murphy has an ad in GQ with Lyle Lovett wearing a similar shoe.

    Here's a link to the pic:

    http://www.johnstonmurphy.com/catalog_chooser.aspx

    I think, for $40, it wouldn't be a horrible purchase. But, if I did purchase it, I would likely wear it the four or five times in a year that you mentioned, then donate it to charity. Definitely not a style that will remain "in" for long and not one I'd wear with a suit; I'd consider it with some odd pants sans jacket and tie but would more likely pair it with jeans, chinos, or cords.

    The shoes I'm proposing aren't necessarily exciting, but they might somewhat inexpensively meet your desire for a lighter colored shoe you could dress up a bit.

    http://www.ctshirts.co.uk/product.as...ProCode=MSHNBB

    http://www.ctshirts.co.uk/product.as...ProCode=MPSBRB

    http://www.ctshirts.co.uk/product.as...ProCode=MPSCND

    The first would be $125 with the current 50% Tyrwhitt promotion code. The second two would be $150. Not exactly in the $40 neighborhood, but certainly not in the $500+ range for the brands mentioned frequently on this board. At the 50% discounted price, I think the Tyrwhitt shoes are a good value. I bought a pair of the first ones last year (the second, calf version, wasn't offered at that time, or I would have bought them) and have been reasonably pleased with them. I believe it has been determined that Loake makes Tyrwhitt's shoes, though I'm not certain.

    On edit: After typing my response, I re-read your first post that you were looking for something in a more Italian style. So, these options probably don't meet your needs. The third option is a bit more sleek than the first two options, though.
     
  16. chorse123

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    It's taken me a while to understand that it's a huge waste of money to buy "inexpensive" things you don't use, especially if you don't love them. You're better off sitting on the money and waiting for the right thing to come along. You made the right decision, here.
     
  17. DocHolliday

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    I don't want to go all AAAC on you (because I'm hardly trad), but that is a pretty trendy style right now. Johnston and Murphy has an ad in GQ with Lyle Lovett wearing a similar shoe.

    That, in itself, is alarming.

    The price on the Tyrwhitt shoes isn't bad for my purposes, but they're all a bit too dark. I already have a good-sized shoe collection in medium to dark brown. I'm after a shoe that is almost blonde, something that pushes the envelope a bit. Trouble is, good ones cost quite a bit and inexpensive ones tend to be quite shoddy. Right now, I'm just looking for a tester pair, to see how much use I'd actually get from them, so I'm reluctant to pay for the top-quality I need for this purpose. It's a Catch-22.

    Thanks for suggestions, though. Every idea helps.
     
  18. tiger02

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    The problem with light-colored english-styled shoes, as I see it, is that when paired with a dark or gray suit, they will look a little bit confused. English styling is just too set in its way of black shoes in town/with suits; you need a full departure to get a "great!" instead of a "hmm..." Sysdoc might shoot me down immediately, but I'm willing to bet he doesn't wear most of those shoes with navy or gray suits.

    Just my $.03
    Tom
     
  19. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Well-Known Member

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    The problem with light-colored english-styled shoes, as I see it, is that when paired with a dark or gray suit, they will look a little bit confused. English styling is just too set in its way of black shoes in town/with suits; you need a full departure to get a "great!" instead of a "hmm..." Sysdoc might shoot me down immediately, but I'm willing to bet he doesn't wear most of those shoes with navy or gray suits.

    Just my $.03
    Tom


    When I set out on this mission, I certainly had Italian in mind. I need something in top quality, the right color and Italian styling, with a low low price.

    Not much to ask, is it?
     
  20. tiger02

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    When I set out on this mission, I certainly had Italian in mind. I need something in top quality, the right color and Italian styling, with a low low price.

    Not much to ask, is it?

    Is that a challenge?
     

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