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My first Janzten - please critique

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by blaidan, Sep 18, 2006.

  1. Jovan

    Jovan Well-Known Member

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    Pft. I know I'd never buy an Oxford button down collar without a pocket.
     
  2. Alfa

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    I also just received my first Jantzen this week(after only about 2.5 months waiting). The fit is way off, but I am blaming myself for mis-measurement. I measured a shirt I had MTM in thailand that fit very well, but I think it is better to measure my actual body instead for the next round.

    Unfortunately the sleeves are both a little too short and the cuff way too tight for it to be serviceable. I was also going for the much discussed "mid-length" that allows for both tucked and untucked wearing and that was a bit disasterous as well.

    I was very happy with the construction and the detailing though. After washing I will post some pics. It was Stripe #447 by the way with an italian 2-button high collar. I think I may have just tried to add too many bells and whistles and the resulting conglomerate and the poor fit just isn't going to work. I chalk it up to a learning experience and a small price to pay once the fit and the preferences are all dialed in. I am excited to reorder, especially with all this talk of a cocaine fueled Jantzen workshop and 2 week turnaround times! [​IMG]
     
  3. tiecollector

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    the shirt is nice, hard to tell the fabric texture from that pic. I have no problem with the pocket if you wear it to work. For an evening out on the town, I'd lose the pocket.

    The sleeves look a little short and the yoke too big. The bigger yoke makes your shoulders look more slouchy. Also to get a real feel for the sleeve measurements, you'll need to button that top collar since it will bring the fabric up a bit more.

    I think I will try Jantzen shirts as well. I had problems with custom made shirts before. I ordered two at once, one was okay, little small on the collar, the other was choking me and the sleeves were about as short as yours are now.

    Have a tailor measure you. As a rule of thumb I always add an extra inch or two to the sleeve measurement to be sure when I put my jacket on that the cuffs poke out a little. I always like to show a little too much cuff than none at all. If the sleeves turn out to be too long its easier to either make them button tighter at the wrist or have the sleeves shortened.
     
  4. mumbojumbo

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    First of all, you cannot go wrong with Jantzen's shirts.

    Of course you can! I was not overly impressed by the workmanship of my jantzen shirt.
     
  5. Vang

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    Of course you can! I was not overly impressed by the workmanship of my jantzen shirt.
    For the price?
     
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    Pft. I know I'd never buy an Oxford button down collar without a pocket.


    Yeah, but an oxford button down collar shirt is an inherently more casual shirt and pockets are fine on casual shirts.
     
  7. mumbojumbo

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    For the price?

    I would say you could get a decent exchange value at the current price. Unfortunately in my case i didn't, since there were to many imperfection to my liking.
     
  8. Jovan

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    Yeah, but an oxford button down collar shirt is an inherently more casual shirt and pockets are fine on casual shirts.
    I suppose you could say that, but I'd wear them with a suit. mumbojumbo: I suggest you actually tell us what the problems with it were. Many forum members here have bought from Jantzen and also very high end makers and not had much to gripe about comparing the two. Additionally, you should always seek to have a problem fixed. Ricky would surely listen.
     
  9. Nonk

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    Nor would I, but the difference is I would never wear it with a suit and tie.
     
  10. Jovan

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    Always these rules about what shirt is appropriate with what... I just go by what looks good with what.
     
  11. Nonk

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    So do I.

    Pockets do not look good with a suit and tie.
     
  12. Shirtmaven

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    Ok, now I am more informed about pockets. I'm always learning something new on this forum.

    The one thing no one has answered deals with the yoke size. Will decreasing the shoulder measurement reduce the yoke?

    Thanks.

    Decreasing the shoulder measurement will decrease the yoke. I am trying to help, but makeing an assesment based on three photos is not the best way to go.

    Jantzen measurement disasters are not uncommon.
    Think about your job. would you want a custom shirtmaker defending you in court or programming your computer?

    I am not saying that any of you guys could not become Shirtmakers, just that you don't learn how to do this overnight.

    Carl
     
  13. mumbojumbo

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    I suggest you actually tell us what the problems with it were. Many forum members here have bought from Jantzen and also very high end makers and not had much to gripe about comparing the two. Additionally, you should always seek to have a problem fixed. Ricky would surely listen.

    Problems (have told them in some other thread already): One misaligned collar stay pocket, untidy bottom hemline seam, one misaligned gusset, pilling fabric and some loose threads.

    high end makers: Disregarding fit, i dont think that anyone would seriously rank jantzen at roughly same level as those makers (usual suspects like barba, borrelli, etc.).

    Fixing problems: I dont want to throw good money (shipping to HK, phonecalls) after bad money (initial shirt price). I just charged it off as learning expenses.
     
  14. Jovan

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    So do I. Pockets do not look good with a suit and tie.
    I'm sorry, I forgot everything you say has to be right.
     
  15. GBR

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    Hopefully you were given them
     
  16. Nonk

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    When it is my personal opinion, then yes, by definition everything I say is right.
     
  17. Jovan

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    Shit. I better drop my pocketed shirt and regular dinner trouser ways. [​IMG] EDIT: On the subject of chest pockets... nobody pays any damn attention to them. Especially when there's a jacket over.
     

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