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Most Overrated Musical Artists

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by edinatlanta, Oct 8, 2009.

  1. AntiHero84

    AntiHero84 Well-Known Member

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    my mom saw the doors open for simon & garfunkel. during light my fire, people were throwing lighters on stage, hoping it would light their fire and induce them to leave the stage.

    I could just never get into their stuff. Light my Fire is catchy, but that's it.

    I read Please Kill Me at 13 and Jim Morrison came off as a douche. Never listened to them again. Way overrated.
     
  2. jpeirpont

    jpeirpont Well-Known Member

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    Matt is right there is absolutely no way Bob Marley could be overrated. Maybe one could say songs like Could You Be Loved, and One Love are overrated. If anything Peter Tosh and Burning Spear are among the most underrated musicians ever.
    I'd add
    Elvis Presley
    Nirvana
    Cold Play
    Rolling Stone(I've only heard on song though
    Aero Smith
    Run DMC
    Slim Shady
     
  3. Gravitas

    Gravitas Well-Known Member

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    Michael Jackson
    "That's ignorant."
     
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    Yes! The Doors are criminally overrated. DURR WE'RE HIGH yeah OK, we get it.

    Another one: Zeppelin. Never did plagiarism make anyone so successful.
     
  6. Pezzaturra

    Pezzaturra Well-Known Member

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    hendrix, the doors, nirvana

    The Doors just like Sex Pistols , Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd or Bowie are archetypes of modern music. They cannot be overrated as they reside in a category of their own...
    You might not like their music, but their influence and originality cannot be overstated.
     
  7. 1969

    1969 Well-Known Member

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    In a world where music is either overrated or underrated, these ten artists got exactly what they deserved.
    By Chuck Klosterman



    If you are the kind of person who talks about music too much, there are two words that undoubtedly play an integral role in your workaday lexicon: “overrated” and “underrated.” This is because those two sentiments pop up in 90 percent of all musical discussions.

    What’s interesting about this phenomenon is that no one uses the same criteria when applying either of those terms. For example, bands can be overrated because certain rock critics like them too much (Sonic Youth, Wilco, Yo La Tengo), or underrated if they sell a lot of records but aren’t widely regarded as brilliant (Thin Lizzy, Duran Duran), or underrated because barely anyone seems to know who they are (Tortoise, Sloan, Lifter Puller). Bands can be overrated because they’re good-looking (the Lemonheads in 1992), or they can be underrated because they’re good-looking (the Lemonheads in 1994). Some groups can be overrated and underrated at the same time (Radiohead). Some groups seem overrated on purpose (Oasis). Some groups seem eternally underrated because—no matter how hard they try—they’re just not as interesting as groups who are overrated on purpose (Blur). It is very easy to be underrated, because all you need to do is nothing. Everyone wants to be underrated. It’s harder to become overrated, because that means people had to think you were awesome before they thought you sucked. Nobody wants to be overrated, except for people who like to live in big houses.

    However, I am not interested in overrated and underrated bands.

    It’s too easy, and all it means is that somebody else was wrong. I’m obsessed with bands that are rated as accurately as possible—in other words, nobody thinks they’re better than they are, and nobody thinks they’re worse. They have the acceptable level of popularity, they have attained the critical acclaim their artistry merits, and no one is confused about their cultural significance. They are, in fact...

    THE TEN MOST ACCURATELY RATED ARTISTS IN ROCK HISTORY!

    10. The Black Crowes: Their first album sold more than five million copies, which is precisely the right number. Stoned people like this band, drunk people think they’re okay, and sober people hate the overwhelming majority of their catalog. This all makes perfect sense.

    9. Madness: This is one of only two ska bands admired by people who hate ska (the other being the Specials, who are somewhat overrated). No one disputes this admiration. “Our House” was a pretty great single, but it’s nobody’s favorite song. Nobody seems to dispute that assertion, either.

    8. Triumph: Always associated with Rush and/or the nation of Canada, but not as good as either.

    7. Tone Loc: Nobody really takes Tone Loc seriously, except for frivolous pop historians who like to credit him for making suburban white kids listen to rap music that was made by black people (as opposed to the Beastie Boys, who made white suburban kids listen to rap music that was made by other white people). This lukewarm historical significance strikes me as sensible. Neither of Mr. Loc’s hits are timeless, although “Wild Thing” samples Van Halen’s “Jamie’s Cryin’” (which I like to imagine is about M*A*S*H star Jamie Farr, had Corporal Klinger pursued sexual--reassignment surgery in an attempt to get a Section 8) and “Funky Cold Medina” samples “Christine Sixteen” (at a time when Kiss were making records like Hot in the Shade and nobody in America thought they were cool except for me and Rivers Cuomo). Those two songs were actually cowritten with Young MC, whose single “Bust a Move” is con-fusing for the following reason: Its last verse states, “Your best friend Harry / Has a brother Larry / In five days from now he’s gonna marry / He’s hopin’ you can make it there if you can / Cuz in the ceremony you’ll be the best man.” Now, why would anybody possibly be the best man in a wedding where the groom is their best friend’s brother? Why isn’t your best friend the best man in this ceremony? And who asks someone to be their best man a scant five days before they get married? This song is flawed. And while I realize the incongruities of “Bust a Move” have absolutely nothing to do with Tone Loc, the song somehow seems more central to Tone Loc’s iconography than his role in the movie Posse, which was the best movie about black cowboys I saw during the grunge era.

    6. My Bloody Valentine: On the surface, My Bloody Valentine should be underrated, but they’re not; everyone who aggressively cares about alt guitar music considers Loveless to be a modern classic, and everyone who is wont to mention “swirling guitars” during casual conversation always references this specific album. Loveless sold about 200,000 copies. This is the correct number of people on earth who should be invested in the concept of swirling guitars.

    5. Matthew Sweet: Every Matthew Sweet album has only one good song, and this good song is inevitably the first single, and this single is always utterly perfect (“Sick of Myself” off 100% Fun, “Where You Get Love” off Blue Sky on Mars, “Girlfriend” off Girlfriend, etc.). He sells enough albums to live comfortably, and that seems reasonable.

    4. The Beatles: The Beatles are generally seen as the single most important rock band of all time, because they wrote all the best songs. Since both of these facts are true, the Beatles are rated properly.

    3. Blue Öyster Cult:The BÖC song everyone pays attention to is the suicide anthem “Don’t Fear the Reaper.” However, that song is stupid and doesn’t use enough cowbell. The BÖC song almost no one pays attention to is the pro-monster plod-athon “Godzilla,” and that song is spine- crushingly great. So, in the final analysis, Blue Öyster Cult is accurately rated—by accident. This happens on occasion; look at Scottie Pippen.

    2. New Radicals: There are only five facts publicly known about this entity. The first is that 1998’s “You Get What You Give” is an almost flawless Todd Rundgren–like masterwork that makes any right-thinking American want to run through a Wal-Mart semi-naked. The second is that nobody can remember the singer’s name. The third is that the singer often wore a profoundly idiotic hat. The fourth is that if this anonymous, poorly hatted singer had made a follow-up album, it would have somehow made his first record seem worse. The fifth is that his album didn’t quite deserve to go gold, and it didn’t.

    1. Van Halen: This band should have been the biggest arena act of the early 1980s, and they were. They had the greatest guitar player of the 1980s, and everyone (except possibly Yngwie Malmsteen) seems to agree. They switched singers and became semi-crappy, and nobody aggressively disputes that fact. They also recorded the most average song in rock history: “And the Cradle Will Rock.” What this means is that any song better than “And the Cradle Will Rock” is good, and any song worse than “And the Cradle Will Rock” is bad. If we were to rank every rock song (in sequential order) from best to worst, “And the Cradle Will Rock” would be right in the fucking middle.

    And that is exactly what I want.
     
  8. romafan

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    Matt is right there is absolutely no way Bob Marley could be overrated. Maybe one could say songs like Could You Be Loved, and One Love are overrated. If anything Peter Tosh and Burning Spear are among the most underrated musicians ever.
    I'd add
    Elvis Presley
    Nirvana
    Cold Play
    Rolling Stone(I've only heard on song though
    Aero Smith
    Run DMC
    Slim Shady


    jp - you are a man of experience and certain years, and yet you've only heard on(e?) song by the rolling stone(sic)?!? [​IMG]
     
  9. skyman

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    U2
    Coldplay
    Kings of Leon
    Oasis
    Rhianna
     
  10. quevola

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    "That's ignorant."

    I'm not saying MJ wasn't a talented performer - just overrated.
     
  11. jpeirpont

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    jp - you are a man of experience and certain years, and yet you've only heard on(e?) song by the rolling stone(sic)?!? [​IMG]

    I've only heard Satisfaction it sound like a rip off of blues music so I never went any further.
     
  12. HORNS

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    Definitely Coldplay. They're the "Grey's Anatomy" of bands.
     
  13. Mark from Plano

    Mark from Plano Well-Known Member

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    I've only heard Satisfaction it sound like a rip off of blues music so I never went any further.

    All good Rock & Roll is a "rip off" of blues music. Stone are not significantly over rated, IMO. They were actually at their best doing straight up blues. I loved their cover of Fancy Man Blues, for example. Not big airplay, but good.
     
  14. jpeirpont

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    All good Rock & Roll is a "rip off" of blues music. Stone are not significantly over rated, IMO. They were actually at their best doing straight up blues. I loved their cover of Fancy Man Blues, for example. Not big airplay, but good.

    I'm not into that sort of thing. I'd just go listen to some Blues. They seems to be celebrated a lot for people who are being unoriginal.
     
  15. Thomas

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    I've only heard Satisfaction it sound like a rip off of blues music so I never went any further.

    WTF? Did you just fall off the turnip truck or something? How in the world does a person live their life and only hear one Stones song???

    Greatful Dead
    Kiss
    Bob Dylan
    Elvis
    Eric Clapton
    Michael Jackson
    Billy Joel


    Okay: Clapton and Billy Joel used to be SO MUCH BETTER. Derek and the Dominos was my favorite album for a long long long time, and Billy Joel - well, the 90's were his Waterloo, and he's never recovered.
     
  16. Mark from Plano

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    I'm not into that sort of thing. I'd just go listen to some Blues. They seems to be celebrated a lot for people who are being unoriginal.

    You seem like quite an expert on them for someone that's only heard one song. Congratulations.

    EDIT: Sorry, I was mistaken. Mick wrote Fancy Man Blues. I thought it was a cover.
     
  17. jpeirpont

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    You seem like quite an expert on them for someone that's only heard one song. Congratulations.

    I don't how saying they are being unoriginal means I'm coming off as an expert, what you described = unoriginal. But I suppose I am also prejudice, thus ranked them with out much info.
     
  18. Rambo

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    Absolutely no question that the correct answer is Bruce Springsteen.
    /thread
    Elvis Presley
    Seriously? [​IMG] My addition: Tom Petty
     
  19. sho'nuff

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    anyone been to Downtown Disney in Anaheim? there is this (or used to be, i dont know, havent been there in awhile) 'violinist' -violin player, rather, who plays these mainstream classical pieces along with the actual soundtrack from a cd accompanying him in the background.

    this guy plays like only 6 pieces and repeats over and over again and the actual 'skill'? of his playing is drowned out by the soundtrack playing in the background. plus he wears the same clothes every single day: a white linen shirt and baggy black pants that are completey stretched out and homely looking.

    but he conjures up tons of people watching him and buying his cd (of what? him playing his violin along an already orchestrated melody in the background?)
     
  20. quevola

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    anyone been to Downtown Disney in Anaheim? there is this (or used to be, i dont know, havent been there in awhile) 'violinist' -violin player, rather, who plays these mainstream classical pieces along with the actual soundtrack from a cd accompanying him in the background.

    this guy plays like only 6 pieces and repeats over and over again and the actual skill of his playing is drowned out by the soundtrack playing in the background. plus he wears the same clothes every single day: a white linen shirt and baggy black pants that are completey stretched out and homely looking.

    but he conjures up tons of people watching him and buying his cd (of what? him playing his violin along an already orchestrated melody in the background?)


    Sho - wtf you talking about? [​IMG]
     

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