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Money Never Sleeps sartorial critique thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Recoil, Feb 24, 2010.

  1. TonyThe Tailor

    TonyThe Tailor Well-Known Member

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    Did anyone ever find this jacket fabric?
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    A guy just ordered one from me after seeing the movie last night... I have it from Dormeuil
     
  2. lasbar

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    A guy just ordered one from me after seeing the movie last night... I have it from Dormeuil


    Movie or not ,this jacket is just horrendous...

    He looks like an extra from the Goodfellas,,,
     
  3. costadelmar16

    costadelmar16 Well-Known Member

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    Did anyone notice the belt Shia was wearing with his jeans in a few scenes. It was really cool and ideas of the brand?
     
  4. mack11211

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    Just saw the movie.

    Liked it very little. The financial machinations & romance are loosely connected, and the leads don't have the charisma to make me care. The camerawork is busy-busy but inert.

    None of the junior actors were so much to look at...my mind wandered to however they got to be headliners.

    Douglas, Sarandon, Brolin and ancient Eli Wallach much better.

    Beautiful clothes overall. Insanely luxurious suiting fabrics.

    Even just out of prison, Gekko has a striped flannel coat that is perfectly pressed.

    In the Fordham lecture scene, his camp collar shirt has no collar button, suggesting he's not quite 'in business' yet. His costume arc follows his character arc superbly.

    They also know what to do with his shoulders. They slope a lot; when he's in shirtsleeves, as he in in the scene in his luxury rental apt with the framed tulpmania picture, the shoulders of his blue linen shirt are subtly padded. His suits have giant shoulders as well, but the tailoring is so good that you don't notice. Last year I saw Douglas in BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, in which he played a villainous attorney...suits all the time, but much more poorly done, with the padding moving independently of his body and the suits gapping at the neck.

    Logsdail, who made the suits, appears in the tailoring scene. He's not the tape measure guy, he's the guy with glasses.

    One thing I don['t like is a high collar band with a two button stand for Shia. His neck is not so long. It just makes him look like more of a little boy.

    The tie draped over his shoulder when he's in the bathroom with Brolin is Hermes.
     
  5. dbc

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    Not bad.

    [​IMG]


    Looks good, although I think the shoes don't match.
     
  6. dmac

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    Loose tie knot, and not in a good way, dissapointing:
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    Other than the poorly tied knot, this was my favorite look in the movie. I particularly like the tie.
     
  7. NOBD

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    Looks good, although I think the shoes don't match.

    I don't mind the shoes. On second sight I think the outfit is a bit over-coordinated, colour-wise. But I still like it.
     
  8. fritzl

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    I don't mind the shoes.

    what else? [​IMG]

    the belt/buckle is a joke...
     
  9. NOBD

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    what else? [​IMG]

    Hehe. Predictable?


    the belt/buckle is a joke...

    Agreed.
     
  10. suited

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    Does anyone have a clue as to what brand this tie is...

    [​IMG]
     
  11. pebblegrain

    pebblegrain Well-Known Member

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    Just saw the movie.

    Liked it very little. The financial machinations & romance are loosely connected, and the leads don't have the charisma to make me care. The camerawork is busy-busy but inert.

    None of the junior actors were so much to look at...my mind wandered to however they got to be headliners.

    Douglas, Sarandon, Brolin and ancient Eli Wallach much better.

    Beautiful clothes overall. Insanely luxurious suiting fabrics.

    Even just out of prison, Gekko has a striped flannel coat that is perfectly pressed.

    In the Fordham lecture scene, his camp collar shirt has no collar button, suggesting he's not quite 'in business' yet. His costume arc follows his character arc superbly.

    They also know what to do with his shoulders. They slope a lot; when he's in shirtsleeves, as he in in the scene in his luxury rental apt with the framed tulpmania picture, the shoulders of his blue linen shirt are subtly padded. His suits have giant shoulders as well, but the tailoring is so good that you don't notice. Last year I saw Douglas in BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, in which he played a villainous attorney...suits all the time, but much more poorly done, with the padding moving independently of his body and the suits gapping at the neck.

    Logsdail, who made the suits, appears in the tailoring scene. He's not the tape measure guy, he's the guy with glasses.

    One thing I don['t like is a high collar band with a two button stand for Shia. His neck is not so long. It just makes him look like more of a little boy.

    The tie draped over his shoulder when he's in the bathroom with Brolin is Hermes.



    The only worthwhile post in this thred. thx
     
  12. Another New Yorker

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    Does anyone have a clue as to what brand this tie is... [​IMG]
    How do you have it downloaded in such good quality??? NVM I saw it was a trailer.
     
  13. mr monty

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    Which shoe store in London? I think at least one pair of J M Westons on the shelve?
     
  14. mrbig

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    Saw the movie tonight;

    I was expecting something as fierce as the original, but overall i liked it. It involved me in the film

    Plus, the rather blatant (im pretty confident but do correct me if i'm wrong) feature of Turnbull & Asser's store in the film inflated my ego just a bit :p

    I quite liked Brolin and LaBeouf's wardrobe, but the lapels could've been wider. I did enjoy the wardrobe after Gekko makes his comeback.

    But the product placement was a bit blatant, IWC, Crockett & Jones, T&A, Ducati...
     
  15. Dressed2the9s

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    You gotta love a good product placement in a movie about financial mkarkets and consumption!
     
  16. gdl203

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    Does anyone have a clue as to what brand this tie is...
    Looks like Canali
     
  17. jamesbond

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    Loose tie knot, and not in a good way, dissapointing:
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    Other than the poorly tied knot, this was my favorite look in the movie. I particularly like the tie.


    +1 best shirt in the movie as well.

    Can anyone ID that cigar? Looks like a Cohiba magico/secretos maduro?
     
  18. Dressed2the9s

    Dressed2the9s Well-Known Member

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    Here is an article from the Wall Street journal about how to get the wall street look. Take notes, because I will:


    New 'Wall Street' Power Look

    Gordon Gekko is back, with a whole new wardrobe for the power-hungry man. "Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps," opens Friday.

    In the 1987 movie "Wall Street," Mr. Gekko and his protÃ[​IMG][​IMG] Bud Fox set the standard for men's power fashions. Remember contrast-collar shirts and silk pocket squares? Men imitated the look (forgetting that the man who wore it went straight to prison). The movie also popularized French cuffs, suspenders and brighter shirts.

    What the "Sex and the City" television show was for women's fashion, "Wall Street" was for menswear. Already, the fashion industry is preparing for the new movie's influence. Men's clothing makers from trendy shirt maker Jack Robie to Mohan's Custom Tailors in New York have sent out press releases suggesting how clients can "get the look" from the movie.

    The power style seen in the new movie is more subtle than the brash suspenders of the old: It relies on the sleek, fitted look of custom suits—gray with a subtle pattern, or dark and single-breasted, with the trimmer shape seen in "Mad Men." The most powerful signals are sent by the accents, such as handmade shoes, luxury watches and other accessories. Some quirky touches that may have a wide impact: tailored vests, clear eyeglass frames, pocket-watch chains.

    "A guy's watch is the equivalent of a Birkin bag," says Ellen Mirojnick, the costume designer for both the original film and the new one.

    It requires a deft hand to work the transition from 1987 to today. In the sequel, Michael Douglas returns as Mr. Gekko, who is now chastened by jail and tasked with finding his place in a new financial world. He re-emerges in "Money Never Sleeps" just before a financial crash that looks a lot like the one that took down the likes of Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns

    When the movie opens, Mr. Gekko leaves prison in a crumpled pinstriped suit jacket that only hints at what once was. A prison guard hands him his old cellphone, which is as big as a grown man's shoe.

    Ms. Mirojnick says she initially wanted to put Mr. Gekko in his old Burberry trench coat and a contrast-collar shirt, but the film's director, Oliver Stone, didn't want to bring back those old cues. The two of them worked closely on getting the details right for a new era.

    "I love the idea of representing history as it's occurring," says Ms. Mirojnick. She says that when she took on the first "Wall Street," she did little research; instead, she made up or chose styles she thought would be eye-catching, like those contrast-collar shirts. Mr. Stone, she says, complained that his friends on Wall Street told him that they didn't really dress that way. "I told him, 'It's a movie,' " she recalls with a shrug.

    Then out came the film, and young men started trying to dress like Mr. Gekko. "I was like, wait a minute," Ms. Mirojnick says, "he's the villain."

    For the new film, she studied current looks by visiting brokerage houses and financial boiler rooms. She observes that casual has consumed the work place. "Some were casual Fridays. Some were no codes at all," she says. "The exhibition of wealth was in the accessories."

    "Money Never Sleeps" does not go casual. It's full of custom suits and luxury accessories.

    Of course, luxury brands are prominent in the movie in part because of product-placement deals. "Money Never Sleeps" is awash in goodies loaned by Cie. Financière Richemont SA, such as IWC and Vacheron Constantin watches and Dunhill accessories. Menswear maker Hickey Freeman provided shirts worn in the movie by some bankers. The companies have legions of publicists working to get the word out on which character wears Cartier and which dons Jaeger-LeCoultre. There's a ball scene, for which gowns were lent by Oscar de la Renta, Marchesa, Vera Wang, Gucci and Pucci.

    But Ms. Mirojnick said the decisions on which brands to use were up to her. "You have to identify the character and then choose the accessories, and not just lay on brands," she says.

    As in the first 'Wall Street,' the film's clothes signal the characters' shifts—in morality as well as wealth—offering an updated code for good guys and bad guys and crooks-in-transition.

    Josh Brolin, who plays the wealthy villain Bretton James, wears a Vacheron Constantin watch. As Mr. Gekko makes a transition from jailbird to shark, he returns to wearing ties. Similarly, his suits make a transition from a plain blue suit that Ms. Morojnick calls his "tonic" to three-piece killer suits. Indeed, in one key scene, Mr. Gekko actually goes to a tailor and gets fitted with new suits that are magnificently pressed and sleek. She refers to his transition as getting "Gekko-ized."

    "He's very dressy, very luxurious, and very formal," she says. Also daring: one of his suits is made with horizontal stripes. Before he is Gekko-ized, his shirts are white or gray. Later, they become bold and colorful. Fabrics come from famed makers, including Dormeuil and Holland & Sherry.
    What can a real man take from all this Hollywood wizardry? Ms. Mirojnick suggests that any man can benefit from thinking about "the elements that define your character." Clothes are clues. She sketched an upside-down triangle that illustrates the silhouette of a "superhero" suit, which she says is "high, tight, and broad." Then she sketched an open-collar shirt to illustrate the look of a romantic man, whose clothes seem more open and accessible and come in prettier colors.

    In the movie, Jake Moore, played by Shia LaBoeuf, wears his six custom suits—each of which cost about $6,500, according to Ms. Mirojnick—with a crisp white shirt that has a two-button collar and Hermès ties. These clothes, she says, are meant to convey that he's a seemingly invulnerable superhero type in the beginning.

    Yet Mr. Moore becomes more casual over the arc of the narrative, doffing his ties and unbuttoning his collars. He appears in a casual leather Belstaff jacket in one scene. I'll leave you to guess where his character is headed.

    Write to Christina Binkley at christina.binkley@wsj.com
     
  19. JohnGalt

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    Movie or not ,this jacket is just horrendous...

    He looks like an extra from the Goodfellas,,,


    seriously - i saw that and thought, "Jesus Christ, who the fuck would wear that?"
     
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