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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Mark Handsome

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    I have some Brutus shirts that are shit, some are OK, sleeves can be a bit funny, I've had to move the wrist cuff buttons because no one in a medium shirt has wrists that bloody thick. Mikkel shirts are shit quality, really thin fabric and the collars are so long they don't sit right, might sit better if the fabric was thicker. Gant shirts are pretty good though, got a few with excellent collars and a few made to measure from online places for approx £30 which have been better than most known makes
     
  2. The Saint

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    M&S are pretty good but they have very few shirts that would suit our style but you can get them , then you will usually have a trip to the tailors to get the box pleat completed . JTG can be good but the quality varies which makes me think they use different manufacturers. .

    Aye , Claudio is sound , never used Mikkel Rude , so no comment on them. .
     
  3. Man-of-Mystery

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    "A large proportion of northern soul's original audience came from the mod movement. Some mods started to embrace the freakbeat and psychedelic rock of the late 1960s, but other mods - especially those in northern England - stuck to the original mod soundtrack of soul and blue beat. Some mods transformed into what would eventually be the skinheads, and others formed the basis of the northern soul scene. Early northern soul fashion included bowling shirts, button-down Ben Sherman shirts, blazers with centre vents and unusual numbers of buttons, Trickers brogue shoes, baggy trousers or shrink-to-fit Levi's jeans. Many dancers wore badges representing membership to clubs organised by dance halls.The first nightclub that effectively defined the northern soul sound was Manchester's Twisted Wheel Club."

    Interesting quote above from this site. For a while in the early 70s (while I still lived in London) I bought the occasional copy of 'Blues and Soul' (the magazine where the first occurrence of the term 'Northern Soul' in print was) and 'Black Music'. It was in one of those magazines that I am convinced I saw a picture of a DJ called Jon LeSaint. Interestingly he was wearing braces and a striped Ben Sherman. This was a bloke I remember as being one of the younger Blackpool mods when I left there in 1968 - my mate 'Cockney Bob' knew him, I'm sure, but I asked him recently and he didn't remember the name. Jon appears to have embraced aspects of mod, skinhead, and Northern-soulie. Still trying to track down the picture...
     
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    This statement infers that there were 2 camps, you were in one or the other. In reality it was not that clear cut - many skinheads were on the early Northern Soul 'scene' (not that it had that name then) and some of the clothes mentioned were worn by both skinheads and soul fans who were not skinheads. In fact, they still are. Photos of the Twisted Wheel 1969-1970 show styles that we would recognise as late Mod and Skinhead as well as other types of clothes.
     
  5. Man-of-Mystery

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    Indeed. Somewhere on this thread we have photos of a bunch of guys (not sure where from) who called themselves 'soulskins'.
     
  6. The Saint

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    I was on a course a few weeks ago and l got talking to a young couple, originally from Lancashire , in the refectory . The lass asked me if l had been a Mod in my younger days [​IMG] and l just said yes. She then told me that both her parents had been Mods and had met in Wigan Casino in the 7ts (I was kinda thinking probably not Mods ) ! She said that she had great photos of them back in the day and I'd probably like them. .

    Mods in Wigan casino , who'd have thunk it. .[​IMG]
     
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  7. Man-of-Mystery

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    Not to mention the Blackpool Mecca!
     
  8. Gsvs5

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    Bowling shirts is a funny one.I first saw them being worn in a photo taken in the Highland Room at the Mecca in B&S.I talked my Mum into laboriously hand embroidering "
    Brunswick Records" onto the back of a short sleeved shirt that resembled the style.
    They were soon to be knocked out in some ugly Colour combinations.They then died out for a good few years when in the late 70's when Original American vintage ones.became widely available,largely due to Flip in Covent Garden and Face era Soul Boys.
     
  9. blue beat

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    im from darlington , i seen loads of skinheads in the early 70s even teddy boys ,my brother was a skinhead then a soul boy goin to wigan ,,late 70s the was loads of punks ,skins n mods ,,i wore the skinhead stuff from 80 to early 90s ,,,but still have the odd bennie and wear doc shoes now n again ,,,83 was the peak for skinheads in darlo i believe ,,,,, i liked the skinhead mod thing cause i always liked to be smart ,plus i grew up on soul n motown ,,heavy rock or punk to me was a thing a never njoyed ,,,, clothes are important ,, it may of been my borstal n approved school upbringing too :) anybody can be scruffy n not bath :)
     
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  10. blue beat

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    :)
     
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  11. Man-of-Mystery

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    My dad was born and brought up there.
     
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  12. Man-of-Mystery

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    I recall having a vintage one in the late 70s. Why, I don't know. I just fancied it. Cotton, medium blue, 'Plains Chevrolet Incs' on the back.
     
  13. Man-of-Mystery

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    101 Things To Do With Unwanted Northern Soul Records

    #1 - Use them as soft porn accessories.

    [​IMG]


    I'm sorry, I'm sorry. ;)
     
  14. The Saint

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    No need to apologise . .[​IMG]





    Nice photie . .[​IMG]
     
  15. Man-of-Mystery

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    Oh there is! I'm just having a bit of a dig. In fact I have been listening lately to Okay FM, a British internet radio station that on weekdays plays non-stop soul. It plays rarer 1960s soul of all tempos along with NS 'dancers' and classic soul tracks (by which I mean it will play Motown and Stax/Atlantic, but these are mixed in amongst the overwhelming bulk of small-label tracks). It's quite an education, the main lesson being that there is much more to rare R&B than the endless NS 'dancers' that sound like poor imitations of Motown - the kind you get on compilation CDs.
     
  16. The Saint

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    Nice one , Buddie . .

    In truth I probably prefer R&B to NS . I like the Paul Jones show on R2 which would be perfect if , we didn't have to listen to the bit between the songs. .
     
  17. Man-of-Mystery

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    I'm just remembering buying an art book in 1973 called Rock Dreams. The artwork was by a Belgian artist called Guy Peellaert and the text was by Nik Cohn, the British rock journo. The idea of the book was to call up an impression of the musicians involved, rather than to depict them as they actually were; thus James Brown was a ghetto godfather revisiting the 'hood' with a flock of children round him, Jim Morrison was one of a louche crowd in a gay bar, the Mothers of Invention were a pantomime Hells Angels gang, Stevie Wonder as a smiling beggar on the street outside a Temptations concert, and so on. There was one of the Rolling Stones in SS uniforms, relaxing in armchairs, sipping cups of tea, with a handful of naked girls standing round (when I say 'naked girls' I mean figures that would certainly render the whole book illegal under current legislation). The copy I had long since fell apart, and I no longer have it. However, some pages from the book can be found on the web. Motown and soul artists feature a lot - James Brown, Aretha Franklin, Ike & Tina Turner, the Drifters, Solomon Burke, Otis Redding. I've picked a few images out. Click them for larger versions...

    First off, ve 'Oo...

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    ... looking fairly straightforward, if lit a little strangely. Now to some of the black acts. Here's Smokey Robinson. The picture recalls the song 'Spanish Harlem' which I don't believe he ever recorded, but nevertheless this pic kinda looks right...

    [​IMG]

    Next the Supremes, seen as a billboard of themselves in an urban landscape...

    [​IMG]

    The pic below, labelled 'Chairmen of the Board' was Peellaert's way of referencing the state of African-American music after the death of Jimi Hendrix. He depicted several singers as though members of the board of a corporation, looking out at us, which symbolises black acts taking control of their own spot in tin pan alley. I can identify all but one of them. Left-to-right I think we have Isaac Hayes, Curtis Mayfield, Marvin Gaye, probably Tina Turner (the image is distorted here), Jimi Hendrix in the portrait behind, Sly Stone, Taj Mahal, and then the guy I don't recognise...

    [​IMG]

    Anyone help out with the last one?

    No reggae/ska artistes featured at all in Rock Dreams. I don't suppose they entered the mainstream consciousness. Well, maybe Desmond Dekker did, but he was hardly a 'Rock god' by Peellaert and Cohn's definition.

    I know this is all a bit off-topic, but we were talking about soul.

    [images used under provisions of 'fair use', for comment.]
     
  18. Clouseau

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  19. Man-of-Mystery

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    That makes sense. Merci, copain.
     
  20. elwood

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    Off topic

    Off topic, perhaps MoM ... but I also got that book and still have it. Mine also fell apart pretty quickly- not a well-made book. And agree about that Stones SS picture - a clever representation of Their Satanic Majesties' public image in the 60s but not for online posting.
     

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