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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. aizan

    aizan Well-Known Member

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    Brutus shirts now avail at Jump the Gun

    Brutus was one of the original shirtmakers (along with Ben Sherman) that was popular in the traditional skinhead era. I dont know much about these new reissues, and who bought the name/company rights, but they look alright and worth a try. Not too expensive either.


    what's the sizing like? 34/36 equates to a bit large on a 34, and a bit small on a 36? [​IMG]
     
  2. Get Smart

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    I got the Med, fits like a Fred Perry 38, so more like a US Small

    I'd guess the S would fit more like a 36 (than a 34)
     
  3. robbie

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    I really feel like the suedehead thing could be for me (clothing wise), though I feel that even in the midwest dressing sharp and having a cropped haircut would make me stand out in ways I probably don't want to stand out.
     
  4. dave

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    I really feel like the suedehead thing could be for me (clothing wise), though I feel that even in the midwest dressing sharp and having a cropped haircut would make me stand out in ways I probably don't want to stand out.

    in all honesty, I doubt that most people would give it a second thought. 99% of the people you see have no clue what a suedehead is and certainly wouldn't know what denotes one by looking at you. i wish it wasn't the case but it is. skin maybe. suede i seriously doubt it.

    suede>skin.
     
  5. Get Smart

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    yea, there's nothing menacing or stereotypical adopting a suedehead look. The whole thing about taking on the traditional skinhead style of dress is that others will look at you and think "oh there goes a nicely dress young man wearing old man clothes" haha, but that's some shit you can grow old with and never follow 5-minute fashion like the rest of the herds It's all about the details, making sure trousers are hemmed just right, tapered just right, clean and pressed...just maintaining some sort of smartness and a consciousness to fit. And ultimately it's all about working class clothes so there's no need to go for expensive labels (unless you want to) since all the gear is available for an affordable price hey ya got the JtG shirt already, so ya gots yer foot in the door already [​IMG]
     
  6. Get Smart

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    btw, re: Brutus shirt....like similar Ben Shermans, it's a cotton/poly blend fabric. I actually like having a few blend shirts in the closet since I can wash, dry and no need to iron.
     
  7. airportlobby

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    In ye olden tymes, was Ben Sherman down market from Fred Perry? Did FP always have greater cache?
     
  8. Get Smart

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    no, Ben Sherman had more pedigree than Fred Perry. The Brutus and Jaytex shirts were also inferior to Sherman, tho BS was more known for striped shirts and Brutus for its plaids and windowchecks.

    back then Fred Perry only had polo shirts and tennis gear, and the popularity of them among skinheads didnt really happen until 70/71. at least that seems to be the historical consensus. It was always worn to some degree but after the mods wore it til mid 60s, FP wasnt really a part of the original 68/69 class of skinheads

    FP has done well to upmarket itself as a "quality" brand that still retains its heritage, but BS has really fallen into the WTF category, tho they do occasionally put out a nice item or two. but it's rare.
     
  9. Kris

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    I really feel like the suedehead thing could be for me (clothing wise), though I feel that even in the midwest dressing sharp and having a cropped haircut would make me stand out in ways I probably don't want to stand out.

    I thought he meant people would think he's gay.
     
  10. Get Smart

    Get Smart Well-Known Member

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    I thought he meant people would think he's gay.

    heh, good point

    but if that's yer thing you can hit up this guy
     
  11. AntiHero84

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    yea, there's nothing menacing or stereotypical adopting a suedehead look. The whole thing about taking on the traditional skinhead style of dress is that others will look at you and think "oh there goes a nicely dress young man wearing old man clothes" haha, but that's some shit you can grow old with and never follow 5-minute fashion like the rest of the herds

    It's all about the details, making sure trousers are hemmed just right, tapered just right, clean and pressed...just maintaining some sort of smartness and a consciousness to fit. And ultimately it's all about working class clothes so there's no need to go for expensive labels (unless you want to) since all the gear is available for an affordable price

    hey ya got the JtG shirt already, so ya gots yer foot in the door already [​IMG]


    I was also thinking of going the suedehead route. My current attempt has been preppy meets skinhead, but is coming off more preppy than anything. Other than slightly longer hair and the omission of boots as daily wear, what are the differences in dress between the skin and suede? Could you offer any insight to someone trying to make this transition?
     
  12. Get Smart

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    I was also thinking of going the suedehead route. My current attempt has been preppy meets skinhead, but is coming off more preppy than anything. Other than slightly longer hair and the omission of boots as daily wear, what are the differences in dress between the skin and suede? Could you offer any insight to someone trying to make this transition?

    all these different styles were so transitory and short lived, but we have the benefit of hindsight to see what was done at a certain point and sorta "stop time" right there and take ideas from it.

    Suedehead is probably the coolest manifestation of "skinhead" but pegging it down is really subjective since it doesnt have the luxury of a defined code that skinhead has, and really only had about a year before it transitioned into "smooths"

    I think it took the menacing elements out of skinhead, but kept the overall style so a well attired skinhead and suedehead would be interchangeable looks. I think some of the more deliberate "working class" gear was omitted from the suedehead closet (like Donkey Jackets, DMs, denim jackets etc). It's basically a skinhead going back to his mod roots, without the peacockery and poofiness that mods had.

    My nigga Alex Roest wrote a really informed piece on Suedeheads over at Film Noir Buff that is essential reading to put it all in one place
     
  13. AntiHero84

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    Thanks, I completely forgot about that article.
     
  14. Get Smart

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    what's the sizing like? 34/36 equates to a bit large on a 34, and a bit small on a 36? [​IMG]

    Here's a pic of me in the size Med

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    I think it'd be a tight fit on a person who is a 40

    But I'd bet the small would be a loose fit for a 34

    It's a well fitting shirt, I really like it, now hoping they reissue some of their vintage checks. Collar has a nice roll to it, and it comes with a hanky for your jacket, my tartan shirt came with a solid red, not sure what the gingham comes with.
     
  15. robbie

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    I suppose you have a point that there is very little that is menacing about dressing sharply, and I don't know about and therefore don't associate myself with any of the ideas/attitudes of skins/suedes other than aspiring to be sharply dressed.
     
  16. Dr. Octagon

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    I've been interested in clothes (that's weird to say considering one would wear clothes all their life so they should be interested in them in some respect) for a few years now and I've never given the traditional looks much thought. My thinking was that they were representative of their time/culture and not meant to be copied or replicated outside that time period. Styles should be always progressing and changing to suit the culture of the time. I always hoped that I would discover a new look or style that would suit my personality and character but it seems these days (at least where I live) dress, for most people, is either a product of pop culture or the media or there is no style at all: just one step above dressing like a homeless person. But after a little history lesson, I really like the skinhead look and what it represents.

    Maybe it's the type of person behind the skinhead look that is similar to me and my character/beliefs (at least from what i understand. cant say i have ever met a real skinhead) but also the fact that they cared about how they looked enough to dress sharp as opposed to the current trend of people in my area with a similar background where its a matter of caring less and looking like a complete dirtbag.
     
  17. Kris

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    heh, good point

    but if that's yer thing you can hit up this guy


    I guess some skins are just in the scene for all the dick. Posers. [​IMG]
     
  18. Kris

    Kris Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it's the type of person behind the skinhead look that is similar to me and my character/beliefs (at least from what i understand. cant say i have ever met a real skinhead)

    Funny.
     
  19. Get Smart

    Get Smart Well-Known Member

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    got my copy of Booted and Suited today, not many pics but here's some photos of the pics that are in the book. Never seen these before so nice to see some new ones.

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  20. Alex Roest

    Alex Roest Well-Known Member

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    not many pics but here's some photos of the pics that are in the book. Never seen these before so nice to see some new ones.

    Good of you to have posted up both the pics and those chapters that weren't included in 'Bovver'.

    Your nigga,

    Alex [​IMG]
     

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