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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Well-Known Member

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    Yes I remember that brown and cream look ,probably with beige trousers ?.
    How would that rule work with a black shirt ? the only thing I can think of is a tie with black stripes,say black and light blue ?.
     
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  2. Gsvs5

    Gsvs5 Well-Known Member

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    As I contentiously said earlier,I never saw black shirts with suits being worn as that was a classic Rocker/Ted look.you only need to look at the images of Alvin Stardust,Showaddywaddy etc and their mockery of the styles to see how strong it was.Like everything,along comes a photo debunking my comments:)
    There is always a joker in the pack who has questionable taste and that Pompey example with the clashing white tie personifies it.

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    IMO the only way to wear a black shirt with a dark jacket at that time was with contrasting trousers,but that's just my opinion;)
     
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  3. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Well-Known Member

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    I have to say that it was more a widespread fashion here than a one off,some lads wore red shirts with a plain white tie,as I said I dont like white ties anyway but thats a personal choice.
    I think that a black shirt would look ok with the right coloured suit,again personal choice,I just think that its a bit difficult to get a tie to fit in.
     
  4. Gsvs5

    Gsvs5 Well-Known Member

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    Must have been a lot of jokers where you were );

    I'm nauseous at the thought of it.....What year was this?
     
  5. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Well-Known Member

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    I think that it was 71...we talked about the Ben Shermans a while back,they were in dark colours ( except the red one ) they were a light material.
     
  6. Gsvs5

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    Yeah I know,I had a red one in 71.Still ,I never saw a tie with one the way you describe?
     
  7. Mr Knightley

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    I think black shirts are very hard to work with. I've had a few over the years but do struggle to match them up with other stuff. There was of course the black-on-black look developed in the 80s by Comme des Garcons and others.

    The only one I wear now is 'nearly black' and has an almost sheer look - ok in summer with lighter trousers:

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  8. cerneabbas

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    Looks good to me,I wear a black shirt with POW check trousers and black shoes.
    I had a navy Ben Sherman in 71,I wasnt allowed to have a black one and red was out of the question for us,now i would quite like the black version of that shirt.
     
  9. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Well-Known Member

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    You didnt miss anything,it wasnt a great look IMO.
     
  10. Gsvs5

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    It became a standing joke in New York that all the people who began to wear the ubiquitous Black-on-Black look in Manhattan at the w/e were the Bridge & Tunnel crowd from the suburbs.....and so it died.
     
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    I should think it would be hard to pull it off successfully - you needed a certain complexion and a lot of confidence. Some still try, of course, I saw a girl in Sorrento last spring who did manage it but it's effectively dead now.....
     
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    Nope, he's assured me it was a BD Ben Sherman, but why he had the collar outside of the jumper he has no idea - confirmation of date, 1970, a year after he joined as a boy soldier age 15, so he's 16 in this photo (that's a squaddie hair cut he's got). Photo taken at Deep Cut Barracks in Surrey.

    He apologizes for not being quite on the money with the fashion and for having the temerity to buy an off the peg suit jacket with wide lapels but he was only on £3 a week. He thinks the rest of the ensemble was two tone Levi Tonics and definitely tassled loafers but denies ever being a skinhead and only wearing boots when he was in uniform.
     
  13. Gsvs5

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    Years later,in the 80-90's I would see Carnaby Street window interpretations of Mod with black shirts and Dogstooth/POW/Seagulls Eye etc ,but it just didn't ring true to me.It had that two-tone/gangster on- the- cheap look.Polyester suits and a sovereign ring.No substance,no style.
     
  14. cerneabbas

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    I also saw a girl ( an Italian ) who looked great in black in Trieste,very simple but great style IMO,I even forgave her for wearing her sunglasses on top of her head.
     
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  15. cerneabbas

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    Now,I have got an admission to make having read your post,I don't normally buy anything with very much polyester content if I can help it but earlier this year I saw some POW check trousers in Next,a shop that I very rarely enter...these trousers are a wool / polyester mix however they are a lovely pale grey with a defined pattern and a pale blue overcheck...I waited until the sale and bought them ( because they weren't worth the original price IMO ).
    On Saturday I wore these trousers out with a black Hugo Boss shirt ( similar to a John Smedley in style ) and my black Loake brogue boots ( no sovereign ring as I am not into jewellery ),I thought that I looked quite good and as people weren't pointing me out and laughing I had believed that all was ok,I now realise that everyone who saw me was actually cringing with embarrassment at my lack of substance and style.
    I will be wearing that trousers and shirt combination again though as I like it,but I will replacing the trousers when I find a pair of wool POW trousers that have such a nice colour and check.
    You may prefer bright colours to black or grey but that is just your personal choice,I happen to agree with you about the stuff in Carnaby Street back then and also about sovereign rings but that is also personal choice.
    BTW,I have just realised that this is one black shirt debate that I don't mind being part of on here,in fact I am interested to see other peoples opinions on them.
     
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  16. Botolph

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    I personally like a black button-down short sleeved shirt with jeans and boots, or crisp contrasting colored chinos and black brogues. The black shirt/white tie combo, however, to me, screams Al Capone or Father O'Malley.
     
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    Peter Sellers in Revenge of the Pink Panther. That's what I always think of when I see that look.
     
  18. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Well-Known Member

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    What about spectator brogues ?
     
  19. Botolph

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    Hahaha, nah I think I'll pass on those bad-larrys!
     
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    Oh big-time. It also reminds me of when some of my sartorially less-tasteful friends get gussied up to take their wives out. Yeesh!
     

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