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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. browniecj

    browniecj Well-Known Member

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    Yes,there was a spray that you could use(something like "Safeguard") that helped with Sheepskins.Whenever I bought A Leather or Sheepskin I always sprayed it first,before wearing it.
     
  2. Man-of-Mystery

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    I can recall at least two cases of somebody dressed inappropriately for the weather. One was a girl I knew from N London (we had one hanging-out-together date at a club N of the river, can't remember which, but the blokes there kind of tolerated me because I was with her, if you see what I mean) who wore a sheepskin on a summer day, because she regarded sheepskins as stylish. The other was a bloke I saw in Lewisham as I was on a bus. It was a winter day but it was sunny. He was wearing stay-prest and a short-sleeved shirt. Hard nut! :D

    Anyone else remember occasions when people sacrificed comfort for style?
     
  3. browniecj

    browniecj Well-Known Member

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    Lattye has said about standing on the Tube,because of the Suit.I have walked instead of going by Bus somewhere,because of a Suit(you were not allowed to stand on Buses,unlike today).I think there were many times when we wanted to be "Flash" especially after buying something -not wanting anything to hinder the impact. :)
     
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    browniecj Well-Known Member

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    You know M-o-M you were pretty lucky moving about the different Manors.Sometimes you could walk 1/2 mile along the road and you were in trouble(especially if you were seen with a local Girl).:)
     
  5. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Well-Known Member

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    "Safeguard" sounds familiar ( was it used on suede shoes as well ? ),I am sure I remember hanging my sheepskin on the washing line and spraying it....Also seem to remember adverts in the dry cleaners for specialist sheepskin cleaning and protection..getting the coats cleaned was expensive..
    We were talking about it last night,sheepskins weren't unusual then,even though they were expensive but you rarely see them now,i don't think that leather coats or jackets seem as popular these days either ( only talking about what we see here,and comparing it too what we saw in the 70s ).
    Just had a look online there was a site called Garment Spa...£60 to clean a sheepskin coat !.
     
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    I stood on the bus back then browniecj.Nothing was going to get in the way of the knife edge crease in my whistle.

    I recall a mate (who was very capable of handling any abuse) walking around with sellotape stuck to the side of his face ,so as to stop his hair curling up as it dried !

    Any means neccessary would be used to stop your hair getting wet and messed up.Hat's were not as prevalent as they are today.
     
  7. con man

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    No disrespect to anyone and please correct me if I'm wrong, but apart from Man of Mystery, there seems to be a lack of photos of anyone on here wearing all this finery that you all say you wore, back in the day. Most Mods and Skinheads, I have met, from any era loved having their photo taken.
     
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    Back then Con man people did not walk around with a big fcuk off camera in the back pocket....Their is few photos of originals than say later 80s Skinheads..By 80 you had the kodak Instamatic, :D

    I am sure their is thousands of photos out there from the 60s...long forgotten in someones attic, also most people these days are not interested in skinheads..and many like to forget they was once a skinhead,:)

    This is Browniecj

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    This is me 1971 with my out of date Skinhead suit. and Royals Loathers..with Beagle collar shirt and wrong tie..:D

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  9. cerneabbas

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    con man...I agree with Lasttye about the bigger cameras....also getting films developed was expensive ( colour was very expensive ). As a kid the only time I remember photos being taken was at weddings,christmas and peoples holidays,i even remember photos being made as "slides" and sometimes they would get the slide projector and screen out and we would sit and watch the pictures ( maybe that sounds a bit sad but things have moved on a lot in 40 odd years,everyone has a camera on their phone now ).
    Also you have to remember if it was relatives who took pictures they had them developed,you never got a copy...the photos got lost or chucked out with other stuff as people moved or died.
    I definitely know one bloke on here Pressure_Drop was a suedehead,i saw him in his crombie ( with pocket handkerchief) sta prest,the whole lot and yet he says he does not have one picture of himself dressed like that and he is a bit envious of his wife because she does have photos of herself dressed skinhead style.
     
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    I have a mate who I have not seen in 20 years.. but we always chat on the phone..he has a few photos of me and him Clacton 1970....I have tried everything to get them....all I get is promises ..fcuking hard work...
     
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    Yes it was a Spray for Leather and Suede-originally for Shoes.



    That's a funny thing about the Sellotape.`65 and the Fashion was for Mod Fellas to have a kind of "Kiss Curl" on the sides of the Head.I used to sellotape the sides-this would have my two Sisters and Mum in stitches..:).I also used to ask my eldest Sister to dry the Hair with a dryer,whilst back-combing it with a brush.She would then put a lot of Lacquer on to keep it place.It would feel like wire-but it stayed there.If it rained,grab an Evening Paper and put it over the head(if it rained unexpected).A Tanner well spent...:)
     
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    You could not walk about a Club with a Camera,for two reasons:-

    1. It could be nicked(as explained before,they were expensive).
    2.A lot of Skinheads were "Camera Shy"-for obvious reasons.
     
  13. con man

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    So I'm guessing all the photos that are out there and there must be thousands more, that will eventually surface, they must of all been done on big fcuk off cameras that were that big, you needed a tripod to hold them steady haha!!
    I'm 46 and although only a nipper in the late 60's early 70's' I remember me dad having a camera and it wasn't a big fcuk off thing and he took loads of photos, by then cameras and photography was getting cheaper and affordable, there were a few small electronic cameras on the market. And I'm no expert, but I think you will find Kodak Instamatic first came out In the early 60's :) (Wickepedia is amazing)
    And by 1980, not sure they got any bigger or smaller, we are only talking a matter of ten or so years
    Whilst I agree, that you would be on pins about getting a camera nicked in a nightclub, you could still say the same about Iphones and other smart phones of today, yet thousands of photos are taken every week in nightclubs etc.
    Don't believe that, that many Skinheads, back then were camera shy, why?....most would of been 12 to 18 years old and while some might of been involved in serious criminal activity and some might of thought, that they would like to be part of the criminal underworld and listened to Al Capone and watched gangster movies, I doubt they were on a par with The Krays and as for football, this was before, the police used videos
    I agree that devoloping photos probably would have been expensive,especially colour, my dads got loads of us from back then and most are black and white.
    I was born in 67 and can remember some things from the early 70's and slide show projectors are one thing that I can remember
     
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    con man...Sorry but I am going to disagree with you here,if your 46 then you were 2 in 1969 ? you got an amazing memory if you can remember how big cameras were then !
    A lot of families would have had someone who was a bit of a "photographer",there was even cine cameras back then,but they were expensive and there was no way you were going to take them down the youth club or to the seaside for bank holiday malarkey.
    If you look about the internet you wont find a massive amount of photos of original skinheads compared with how many skinheads there were.
    I remember seeing signs at football grounds saying that taking pictures was not permitted ( football league had the rights ? ).
    I definitely remember queing at the Tote end ( Eastville ) and a tv crew being told to fcuk off as we didn't want to be on the telly ( I was only a kid myself )you didn't want your parents seeing what you were up to,and the neighbours were bound to tell them.
    Like I said I can remember Chris Brown ( Pressure_Drop) from school and football and if he hasn't got any photos then why should anyone else ?.
    We were talking about this tonight and the first camera that I had that would fit in your pocket was a disc camera early to mid 80s,back in the early 70s a camera was still quite expensive compared to a phone camera now,you can get a cheap phone with a reasonable camera for £30 ? ( alright not a top notch phone but the cameras ok and easy fits in your pocket ).
    Why are all these photos going to turn up ? after people have died they just get binned,i haven't got many photos of me over the years,i just don't keep all that stuff...I had my picture on the front of the paper at football and I haven't even kept the copy...
    One other thing,i do have one photo of me mid 70s at football,monkey boots,wranglers with turn ups,suede bomber jacket and a scarf, am I going to put it up on the internet ? am I fcuk..I don't want my picture stuck on some weirdos bog door !
     
  15. Lasttye

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    We have gone over this before....I don't remember anyone coming out with a camera even the girls...as others have said on here..weddings, and holidays...or maybe sitting on a wall outside your home...also photo booths that you may walk past ..
    Its funny but i don't think anyone was that interested....I mean if people was you would have thousands of photos about but you don't thats proof.
    Also I would never carry anything around bulging out me pockets ...maybe a cut throat razor down me trousers,;)
     
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    con man-Are you a wind up merchant - Seeing as you were only 2 in `69,how the fck would you know what was going on,or what people did in Skinhead circles?Another "Johnny Come Lately".
     
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    Sussed him after a couple of post ago,:rolleyes:
     
  18. con man

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    One thing, I do know what camera me dad had, like you say they were expensive, so he didn't just through it away after a couple of uses in 1969 now did he, had it for a few years after.
    let's get another thing straight when the hell have I said, I knew what the fcuk, what was going on in Skinhead circles back then.
    Just asking, if you lot were wearing all this fantastic clobber back then, I would have thought you might have some photos of it, that's all.
    If you think I'm wind up merchant, then tough shit!!
    If I have ruffled your feathers by starting a bit of a debate, seriously, there's no need to through your dummies out of the pram.
    And I ain't no johnny come lately either, I got into it in 1979 and apart from 5 years between 88 and 93, have kept my hair cropped and wore the clothes and gone gigs and skinhead reggae/ska , northern soul and mod do's and still do, In fact was at one just last weekend, sounds and pressure in Nottingham, if you want to know my credentials ask anyone who knows me, my name is Conrad.
    And Roy, you ain't sussed me!!!
     
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  19. Gsvs5

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    Try and find phototos from any group pre mid 70's and you'll have a hard time.Most members of any youth cult are school kids,student and the unemployed who have limited income and are more interested on spending the little they have on clothes,booze and fags.Photo development was (relatively) bloody expensive and so cameras were used for weddings,summer holidays and family get together s.The quality of the average photo also left a lot to be desired from the old instamatics.The shit you can take now with an iPhone was only available with a Nikon back then.
     
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    If no one was interested in taking photos back then, it's strange that more and more are beginning to surface, only tonight, I have seen one of Skinheads, said to be early 70's Margate on Facebook.....where they carried the huge fcuking camera is beyond me, must of put it in one of them tartan shopping trolleys like what me nan, used to wheel around everywhere, don't know how the hell I remember that trolley, seeing how she had in the early 70's
     

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