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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Clouseau

    Clouseau Well-Known Member

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    Cerneabbas, apparently the CWU became used by the USAF in the early eighties (mid-seventies ?) instead of the MA-1. Because the CWU is treated with a fire retardant substance, not the MA-1 who could be dangerous for pilots in case of accident. Slightly off topic by the way, on the contrary of the MA-1, the CWU was not an original sixties skinhead clobber.

    Anyone had experience with Knox armoury MA-1 ? they are produced by Alpha, but less expensive. I would be interested by a review...
     
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  2. cerneabbas

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    I dont want to start a massive arguement,but that picture of the bloke in external steel toe caps and a sheepskin.I would say that its later than 69/71,the way the jeans are bleached,the way the jeans are turned up,the external toe caps themselves all make me think that its later.That triangular traffic cone,i would have said that was later too.
     
  3. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Well-Known Member

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    Clouseau.Another reason for you not to like theCWU is because it messes up a classic design ( IMO ),i still remember that Schott seemed better quality ( at that time).I think Alpha is another make where quality has gone down over the years.
     
  4. Clouseau

    Clouseau Well-Known Member

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    Cerneabbas. Schott MA-1 are an option, but what i don't like is they have a logo on, like todays Alpha. That is why i think about Knox armoury, a cheaper option with no logo:


    [​IMG]

    A bit thin maybe ?

    On another subject. The end of the sales is near here, last clothes go for cheap. Found a Lee rider, Japan made, dark indigo, for... 40 euros !
     
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    Nobody seems to know the source, someone on the mod generation forum posted it calling it 70's and a russian website has it under their 70's/80's section but a lot of bloggers are trying to pull some wishful thinking revisionist history calling it 60's to justify their bleached jeans fetish and legitimize it I guess.
     
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    ek77,cerneabbas is right.The picture is later.The whole "Look" shouts later-and in the 60s,the traffic cones were shaped like cones not that shape shown.:)
     
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    [​IMG][/quote]

    Although I'm waiting for my traffic cone researchers to come back with some data (!), there's not a lot wrong with this.
    Original button shirt.
    Original Levis, turned up (a bit short for some's tastes but not un-seen at the time)
    Bleach - plenty evidence of that from mods, skinheads, pop stars etc
    60s looking work boots.
    Hair about 3/4 inch with sideboards
    Wool vee neck
    original sheepskin

    Not the smartest I've seen but definitely not the worst.
    Exagerated hooligan look - nowt wrong with that for '69.

    The cone's the only thing putting me off!
     
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    If only he had leant a little bit further to his left he would have hidden the traffic cone!
     
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    I do remember using bleach on Levis in '69 in an attempt to soften/lighten new-ish Levis. Bloody ruined them!

    There was no substitute back then for wearing-washing-wearing-washing-wearing-washing....
     
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    Quote:Yes, I am sure that is right. The Cheaney website will probably confirm it. There has been a lot of debate as to whether the Prada takeover of Church's has been good for the company. I have had pre and post-Prada Church's and must say I do not detect any significant change in quality.
     
  12. Bob the Badger

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    Although I'm waiting for my traffic cone researchers to come back with some data (!), there's not a lot wrong with this.
    Original button shirt.
    Original Levis, turned up (a bit short for some's tastes but not un-seen at the time)
    Bleach - plenty evidence of that from mods, skinheads, pop stars etc
    60s looking work boots.
    Hair about 3/4 inch with sideboards
    Wool vee neck
    original sheepskin

    Not the smartest I've seen but definitely not the worst.
    Exagerated hooligan look - nowt wrong with that for '69.

    The cone's the only thing putting me off![/QUOTE]

    I am not a traffic cone expert but its putting me off 1969 as well. I am not keen on his work boots or the bleached jeans.The rest of his clothes are pukka. We wore Martens because we could run in them. He wouldn't have caught me up running in those boots. I tried bleaching my Levi's around 1969 and completely ruined them. They became my cut downs. His bleaching is cruder than I remember and it looks more like he has painted them.
     
  13. cerneabbas

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    I am not going back on what i said,i would still say later than 69/71 but and its a big but we have seen quite a few times on here the "regional variation" that could even include traffic cones ! Just because i/we didnt see such a "style" or such a traffic cone it could have happened somewhere else.
     
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    Clouseau.I liked the pictures of the Alphas that you put up some time ago,i dont like logos but do they show that much on the blue Alphas ?.I dont like the silver zips on the Knox Armoury one they look cheap ( IMO ) i dont like the orange linings any more.I still think the jackets look good but not for me these days.You had some good luck with the Lee Riders at that price !
     
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    here are 2 of my original ones with small grooves.. but only my black ones got the bigger grooves u are talking about....
    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Bleaching yer Levis and fukcing it up must have been very common, so variations would be distinctive from one have-a-go-bleacher to the next.
    First pair I did, laid the jeans in the bath and used undiluted Domestos. Hung 'em out to dry. They were still damp (and stinking) when I put them on - just couldn't wait. Went to the Disco that night (I was 11) and there was more holes than jeans by the time I got home.
    After a telling off from me mam (!), the next pair were much better. I was more grown up (probably 12) by then!
     
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    what i think...

    and as i remember right that pic was allready shown on here before and no one said it isnt original...

    wanted some data?? ;)

    "In 1961, David Morgan of Burford, Oxfordshire, UK believes that he constructed the first experimental plastic traffic cones, which replaced pyramid-shaped wooden ones previously used."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_cone
     
  19. Clouseau

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    Yes i like those New Alphas with blue lining best, but can't find my size. I should give up with the MA-1. You are right, the Knox Armoury looks too cheap... (very cheap indeed, 40 dollars! Nevertheless it's made by Alpha...In China)

    A Bargain that Lee Rider. Was Lucky. Found a picture of more or less the same Japanese model, except the leather patch and the buttons are a bit darker on mine and it's a little higher waisted. (Look better IMO) :


    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Bob the Badger

    Bob the Badger Well-Known Member

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    40 Euro's for Lee Rider, Made in Japan and high waisted- absolute bargain! Were there many pairs for sale? I'm looking for similar jeans.
     
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