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Military Boot Camp for Civilians?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by tiecollector, Apr 1, 2008.

  1. Erich

    Erich New Member

    Jan 28, 2015
    Look the guy is simply asking were he can go to get comparable training with respect to the military. Yes, there are fitness boot camps, yes there are monasteries that will take you in, yes there are small arms training classes, yes there are obstacle runs that even the US Marines sponsor, yes there are marital arts and self defense classes you can take and yes there are team building retreats you can signup for.

    This thread is not asking for people to come up with: signup for each section of military boot camp and then meet new people each class you take. This thread is about finding a boot camp where you signup with the same individuals and go through all the classes together till you graduate. That is the definition of a military boot camp. There are like military boot camps for troubled teens but I may troubled but not a teen.

    I have personally spent five (5) days at MCRD (Marine Corps Recruitment Depot) in San Diego, California. That was the most awesome time of my entire life. However, since is was in NJROTC (Navy Junior Reserve Officers Training Corps) and I had High School to go back to I could not go through the entire training. Heck, they even made us say "Attack, Attack, Attack" instead of "Kill, Kill, Kill" half way through the Mini Boot Camp because they didn't want to send an entire Platoon of Combat Enraged Teens back to High School. I've been through a "taste" of boot camp and I still want more decades later and so do tens-of-thousands of Adults if given the opportunity much like those on this thread.

    Many people have children or other commitments that prevent them from signing two (2) to four (4) years away. And many others oppose war but still want training. The reserves is just another long-term commitment just with longer RR (Rest and Relaxation) periods and many people want to avoid FBI background checks not because they are criminals but because I'm sure they don't like standing in DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) lines the same: no government involvement.

    While in Mini Boot Camp I did not get to fire a rifle, go through the obstacle course with speakers blaring explosions, gunfire and screaming. I did not get to go through physical training in full fatigue. I did not get combat field training either.

    In addition, at a later date weekend event I got to go through Battleship Damage Training, where they shoot water out of the bulkheads (walls) and you have to stop the water with heavy wooden boards. I also got to use a fire hose to douse a flaming helicopter.

    One response said Russia sells Military Training and I know Mexico sells Military Training to the well-connected, such as Drug Cartels.

    Everyone that has watched the News realizes when a person gets physically or emotionally hurt they sue. Furthermore, those that know about Military Enlistment know that when you go to Boot Camp the government unofficially owns you and therefore if you get seriously hurt you have a small chance of restitution for your injuries. Exactly more, Extreme Sports like MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) or UFC (Ultimate Fighting Champion) have serious injuries and are bared from suing because they enter into "battle" of free will. The same could be done for Private Civilian Boot Camps. (I understand official sports contracts are different from private party contracts, but the premise still lays the same and they all are required to have special insurance)

    Totally Off-Side relevant zoning note: Cancer is not legally treatable in the United States with respect to diet and enemas. The Gerson therapy is heavily advertised in the US but is carried out in Mexico because Mexico is relatively lawless.

    The same could be done with Military Training. I.e. trained ex-military drill instructors could give the EXACT SAME TRAINING that US marines or any other Military Training. Training with heavy-caliber weapons and explosives could also take place. The cost of building, maintaining and executing the training facilities would of course be the burden of the consumer. This would be done in another country. Please note: I am not interested in starting my own Training Course of any kind.

    In Conclusion, because I'm tired of writing:

    Does anyone know of any Private Civilian Boot Camps in any country that Rival Military Training of World Powers (like US, Great Britain, Russia, China ect.)?

    I define this Question of Private Civilian Boot Camp as: medical screening, assault rifle basics/handling/marksmanship, physical fitness, martial arts, combat first aid, military history, obstacle courses, team building combat exercises, close combat skills, gas chamber training, defensive driving and, of course, assault courses.

    Excerpt from Military.com Marine Basic Training:

    Phase One - Week One Through Four
    The first phase is the transition of civilian to recruit and it takes place at the MCRD, where recruits undergo strenuous physical training, martial arts and classes on such areas as Marine Corps history and first aid.
    A recruit's first stop is called “Recruit Receiving”. This is where recruits spend the first few days of their recruit training experience. This is where they receive their first haircut and initial gear issue, which includes items such as uniforms, toiletries and letter writing supplies. During this time they are also given full medical and dental screenings, and take the Initial Strength Test. This test consists of a one and a half mile run, sit-ups and pull-ups to test recruits to see if they're in shape to begin training. Recruits will also learn the Marine Corps values of honor, courage, and commitment. The rest of this phase is spent learning weapons handling from trained experts and completing the Confidence Course.
    Phase Two – Week Five Through Nine
    The second phase starts when recruits move up north to Edson Range, Weapons Field Training Battalion. hone their close combat skills and master Marksmanship Training. Every Marine is a rifleman first and foremost. It is during this time they will develop proficiency and confidence with their weapon. During this phase, they spend most of their time conducting field training and rifle qualifications. Recruits undergo gas chamber training, Field Firing Range and the Crucible event.
    Phase Three – Week Ten Through Thirteen
    For the third phase, recruits move back to the Depot where they undergo swim qualifications, a defensive driving course, testing of Marine Corps history, first aid, physical training, drill, and inspections and finally Family Day/Graduation.
  2. MEMNOCH451

    MEMNOCH451 New Member

    Mar 5, 2015
    In regards to anyone wanting to have their metal tested at fake boot camp.. I say sure why not? It will never be the same as the "real thing" but if it gets you out the door and off your ass... then by all means find one.

    The guy who finds it "distasteful" for you to want to do it is wrong... Serving your country can be done at home from an arm chair. You can be a good parent and a good friend to people and make the US a better place with out picking up a gun if that's your thing.

    I did boot camp in 1982 and was not special forces, was not a SEAL nor a ranger... but I did serve and that gives me the right to say that if you don't want to serve... that's great! It's not for everyone! I still respect people who have no military service just as much as I would a guy who did 3 tours... both choices are hard and require a measure of sacrifice. If you are a bum on the other hand...
  3. Kyle Hunter

    Kyle Hunter New Member

    May 6, 2016
    It's not about being too much of a pussy to join and serve, It more about not wanting to be the Governments property...

    I'm not going to go out and throw my life away because I politician wants me to police a city we have no authority to be in in the first place. However I want to be trained and ready for anything I may come in contact with, be it natural disaster, gang violence, etc...
    Already took medical and firearm training, but there's no such thing as being over prepared.
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  4. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Well-Known Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    NE PA

    Well written. PPPPP.

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