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Men's Skin Care

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by kapay, Jul 19, 2006.

  1. cmrocks

    cmrocks Well-Known Member

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    I've been using mostly Aveda stuff lately. I have face wash, body wash, face scrub, toner and moisturizer. It seems to be doing the job well. My skin has stayed very clear and it seems much softer/smoother than before I started using the products.
     
  2. Associate

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    Kiehl's ----- trust me, not only their shaving products are great. nearly everything you buy from them is top quality. they're truly perfected the easy, no fuss, fantastic skin formula. i swear by the Foaming Non-Detergent Washable Cleanser -- it's for combination or oily skin (i have combination) and its perfectly gentle enough that it doesn't dry the non-oily parts of my face, but its great at keeping the oil in check as well. helps even skin tone, too. Plus, their Facial Fuel Energizing Moisturizer is superb. it's very light and you can put on as much as you want without worrying about clogging your pores. but, i'm in a very humid climate, so i typically avoid the oily areas on my face with the moisturizer.

    Not to burst the Kiehl's bubble, but their shaving products sometimes contain irritants such as camphor and menthol - not really recommneded for your face. The foaming 'non-detergent' cleanser actually contains a very simple standard detergent that is used in shamppos and hand soaps and generaly not recommended for facial skin.
     
  3. Ranjeev

    Ranjeev Well-Known Member

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    I picked up some Barber Brigade products recently from Target. I'm no expert in this area but I like the stuff. Cheap as well.
     
  4. kapay

    kapay Well-Known Member

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    From what I've learned from shaving, it's optimal to shave after a warm/hot shower to open up your pores. However, on a day that's already hot, would room temperature water still work? I find it hard to have to take warm showers because lately weather has been reaching 100+ degrees in some areas.

    Also, a lot of skin care products boast oil control so would a regular regimen of face wash, toner/astringent, exfoliant/mask, and moisturizer actually prevent future breakouts? Granted everything is done correctly such as using the right product for the right skin type.
     
  5. funk_soul_brother

    funk_soul_brother Well-Known Member

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    Not to burst the Kiehl's bubble, but their shaving products sometimes contain irritants such as camphor and menthol - not really recommneded for your face. The foaming 'non-detergent' cleanser actually contains a very simple standard detergent that is used in shamppos and hand soaps and generaly not recommended for facial skin.
    I don't enjoy the "cooling effect" of menthol, so the Kiehl's shaving cream I use does NOT contain neither menthol nor camphor (at least judging by their absence on the ingredients list). And I am not entirely sure how an international product which is actually NAMED Non-Detergent Washable Cleanser could contain a detergent. I have to think that you are somehow mistaken. Besides, I can't find a detergent listed in the ingredients.
    From what I've learned from shaving, it's optimal to shave after a warm/hot shower to open up your pores. However, on a day that's already hot, would room temperature water still work? I find it hard to have to take warm showers because lately weather has been reaching 100+ degrees in some areas. Also, a lot of skin care products boast oil control so would a regular regimen of face wash, toner/astringent, exfoliant/mask, and moisturizer actually prevent future breakouts? Granted everything is done correctly such as using the right product for the right skin type.
    The post-shower shave certainly helps. The steam in the bathroom will help open your pores and can make the shave smoother. However, if your skin is oily, you should NOT be taking hot showers as they tend to aggravate oily skin. And yes, at least hypothetically, following a regular regimen of oil controlling products should certainly help to clear up and/or prevent further breakouts. But sometimes, it's just genes. [​IMG]
     
  6. bobbyd

    bobbyd Well-Known Member

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    Kiehl's ----- trust me, not only their shaving products are great. nearly everything you buy from them is top quality. they're truly perfected the easy, no fuss, fantastic skin formula. i swear by the Foaming Non-Detergent Washable Cleanser -- it's for combination or oily skin (i have combination) and its perfectly gentle enough that it doesn't dry the non-oily parts of my face, but its great at keeping the oil in check as well. helps even skin tone, too. Plus, their Facial Fuel Energizing Moisturizer is superb. it's very light and you can put on as much as you want without worrying about clogging your pores. but, i'm in a very humid climate, so i typically avoid the oily areas on my face with the moisturizer.

    I've heard alot of good things about Kiehl's Facial Fuel Energizing Moisturizer, but I also a) live in a very humid climate and b) have oily/combination skin. Given that, would it be counter-productive for me to use this product? I don't want to utilize a "great" product if it is going to cause breakouts or otherwise not be effective.
     
  7. Associate

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    And I am not entirely sure how an international product which is actually NAMED Non-Detergent Washable Cleanser could contain a detergent. I have to think that you are somehow mistaken. Besides, I can't find a detergent listed in the ingredients.

    I believe it contains sodium c14, a common surfactant/cleansing agent. I can't comment on why they chose to name it "non-detergent".

    Other than that, Kiehl's products (as almost all "premium" cosmetic procuds) are exceedingly ordinary, but command very high prices for some reaosn.
     
  8. funk_soul_brother

    funk_soul_brother Well-Known Member

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    I've heard alot of good things about Kiehl's Facial Fuel Energizing Moisturizer, but I also a) live in a very humid climate and b) have oily/combination skin. Given that, would it be counter-productive for me to use this product? I don't want to utilize a "great" product if it is going to cause breakouts or otherwise not be effective.

    I'm living in Seoul, in South Korea. It's extremely humid here and my skin is also combination. This is a great moisturizer for me here in this climate. Perhaps you should give it a whirl and see how it does!

    I believe it contains sodium c14, a common surfactant/cleansing agent. I can't comment on why they chose to name it "non-detergent".

    Well, it seems you are correct. It certainly does contain Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate. However, small amounts of this ingredient aren't irritating unless a person has very dry skin. This particular facewash is specifically "for a combination or oily skin type" so I trust that it is fine for me.

    That being said, I think your knowledge on the different ingredients of skincare products would be extremely beneficial to all of us who are interested in the contents of this thread! You should post more! [​IMG]
     
  9. Associate

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    Well, it seems you are correct. It certainly does contain Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate. However, small amounts of this ingredient aren't irritating unless a person has very dry skin. This particular facewash is specifically "for a combination or oily skin type" so I trust that it is fine for me.

    That being said, I think your knowledge on the different ingredients of skincare products would be extremely beneficial to all of us who are interested in the contents of this thread! You should post more! [​IMG]


    Thanks [​IMG] but, being a lawyer by trade, I am hardly an expert.

    The product will certainly not harm you, except maybe in the pocket area. It's just not very different than using a mild shampoo for washing you face (which is not a terrible idea, BTW).

    This information is available to all on the Internet. My interest sparked when a female friend and I had an argument about the merits and hype of cosmetic products. There a several websites that rate products based on indredients. I myself am not imune to the lure of nice packages, natural ingredients and general hype, but it's good to take a reality check every once in a a while.
     
  10. Renault78law

    Renault78law Well-Known Member

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    I'm admittedly uninformed, but I think Kielhs does a pretty good job with their line. Most of their products have no fragrance, and are not tested on animals. Further, at least they give you the option of using a shavecream that contains no menthol. Some people enjoy the cooling sensation, so I can see why they'd incorporate a shave cream that contained it, but I'm very thankful for the option to use the plain stuff. On the whole, I think their line is pretty no-frills. And I consider their prices very reasonable.
     
  11. kapay

    kapay Well-Known Member

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    Thanks [​IMG] but, being a lawyer by trade, I am hardly an expert.

    The product will certainly not harm you, except maybe in the pocket area. It's just not very different than using a mild shampoo for washing you face (which is not a terrible idea, BTW).

    This information is available to all on the Internet. My interest sparked when a female friend and I had an argument about the merits and hype of cosmetic products. There a several websites that rate products based on indredients. I myself am not imune to the lure of nice packages, natural ingredients and general hype, but it's good to take a reality check every once in a a while.



    That's really odd. Face washes were meant to wash off impurities such as soap residue so wouldn't it be detrimental to use such products (or mild shampoo)? I'm quite the beginner myself so I don't know any better.

    I've tried looking for sites before that rated skin care products before but could never find one that was knowledgable enough. And sites that are based off user ratings usually only have three or less ratings making them rather worthless especially if they all just say "amazing product".
     
  12. funk_soul_brother

    funk_soul_brother Well-Known Member

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    Listen, kapay --

    realistically, with a company like Kiehl's --which has been a top-of-the-line skincare provider since 1851-- you can pretty much feel safe when you are using their products.

    There are loads and loads of other companys which are also very old and very reputable. And as mentioned, they'll all have specific skincare products tailored to your skin type.

    I say try out a few different washes. See which ones work best for you.
     
  13. kapay

    kapay Well-Known Member

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    I know. Just haven't had the time to go out and get anything yet. Finals week for my summer semester is dawning on me. Thanks again for the comments.
     
  14. WalkmanX

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    Baxter of California - inexpensive yet made with quality ingredients. I'm really liking their soap bars, I use it to wash my face and they're actually very gentle and leaves my face squeaky clean.

    If you want reviews, check out makeupalley.com, they have a lot of reviews on a variety of well, makeup products.
     
  15. hermes

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    the baxter bars are not technically soap, as they're made of gylcerin but they are very effective at cleansing yet gentle on your skin

    the green ones, italian lime scent, are the better of the two versions scent wise, otherwise, they're identical save for colour and scent

    they tend to go quickly though, which is the general nature of gylcerin type bars anyway
     
  16. faust

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    Whatever Kiehl's makes is good enough for me.
     
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    skalogre Well-Known Member

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    Baxter of California - inexpensive yet made with quality ingredients. I'm really liking their soap bars, I use it to wash my face and they're actually very gentle and leaves my face squeaky clean. If you want reviews, check out makeupalley.com, they have a lot of reviews on a variety of well, makeup products.
    I use Baxter's of California aftershave balm. Pretty good. But I got in a trade an Anthony Logistics aftershave balm tube that I like much better.
     
  19. Andrew V.

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    I don't get the hype about Kiehl's. It's just one of the many L'Oreal Corp. brands. Kiehl's makes some good products, some ok ones, and some bad ones, like almost every other brand. You have to read the ingredients and pick and choose, rather than just trust the brands.

    I wouldn't automatically trust any product from a brand like Kiehl's to be safe and effective and right for my skin type (regardless of the labeling) any more than I would trust any item of clothing, from any old clothing brand now owned by a huge corporation, to be well made and a good value and stylish.

    Saying "Whatever Kiehl's makes is good enough for me" is like saying "Whatever Hugo Boss makes is good enough for me."
     
  20. malek

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    My friend works for L'OrÃ[​IMG]al and she offered me the WHOLE men expert line and I must say they are very good!
    You should try them cuz they're not expensive!
    The aluminium face scrub is the best scrub I've ever used [​IMG]
    What is your opinion about this line?
     

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