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Meermin Mallorca Shoes

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by asturiano, Dec 5, 2011.

  1. jaywhyy

    jaywhyy Well-Known Member

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    IMO, Vass in terms of value beats out everything else, and I'd rather have 1 Vass MTO than 2 Meermin ones.
     
  2. Osiris2012

    Osiris2012 Well-Known Member

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    Hmm yes this does give you pause but there have been slot of positive experiences and outcomes for ppm within the thread too
     
  3. Monkeyface

    Monkeyface Well-Known Member

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    I'm assuming B. Nelson is a cobbler, if so, could you please let us know what he says? Thanks!

    I find it very sneaky that they make 2 pairs right for the pictures, and fuck the rest up in order to save money.
     
  4. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Well-Known Member

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    Vass cost less extra for MTO than Meermin, only €100 instead of the €150 Meermin take. RTW cost €420 so MTO ends up at 520 (prices incl. VAT). Then you get completely hand made shoes, with JR-soles, and premium grade uppers. Like mentioned above, definitely the most value for money around. I mean it just cost €110 extra above a pair of Meermin MTO.
     
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  5. jaywhyy

    jaywhyy Well-Known Member

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    Rezso Kuti actually quoted me at 440 Euros for MTO (ultimately couldn't go through with it because of my low instep) as VAT is excluded for the United States. That price also includes lasted shoe trees, which I'd say are at least worth $100 USD.

    Sorry to spam the Meermin thread with this, but you guys are paying a good amount of money and time for these shoes, and the two QC issues above don't seem right.
     
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  6. konda

    konda Well-Known Member

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    Here is a picture of the new jodhpur. It is without the seam on the vamp. What do you guys think?

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  7. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Well-Known Member

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    Yes, my price examples was with VAT. For people outside EU €440 seem right. The comparison with Meermin would still be the same though, just a bit lower amounts for you non-VAT-people.
     
  8. Monkeyface

    Monkeyface Well-Known Member

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    Received my boots much faster than expected. They have a nick on the toe, and some some sloppy stitching (things that are supposed to be round are square), but other than that they look alright. They fit very well, but they're a bitch to put on, have to undo all the laces, definitely have to get used to that.

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    EDIT: After putting them on once, the leather has minor wrinkles all over, the same thing that happened to the museum calf MTO, except there's much more leather here, so it looks worse. That's a sign of using substandard leather, right?
     
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  9. gyasih

    gyasih Well-Known Member

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    Dropped them off at B. Nelson. I'll call later to get his feedback. I don't want to pay too much if anything needs/can be done, because then I could have just purchased another brand.
     
  10. OzzyJones

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    If they need anything done contact Meermin and have them pay for it! It should work out cheaper than double shipping which they'd have to pay if you sent them back for fixing
     
  11. laufer

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    I think it is a sign of maximizing the leather hide. The best leather comes from the butt of the animal but there is only so much of that leather. Some ultra luxury makes will use only the best of the best which means that only a pair and in some case a single shoe can be made from a leather hide. It would be unreasonable for us to expect Meermin to make only a pair of shoes from the single hide. So these blemishes you see are a probably expected for the leather used and the price point.

    I think we too share some guilt here. Some of the defects are unacceptable but we should stop expecting that Meermin can make $1500 shoe or boot for $450.00.

    Congratulation Monekyface it must feel as you have won lottery with all the problems this MTO had.
     
  12. Monkeyface

    Monkeyface Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I'm pretty happy about it, but I do feel bad for the others. The boots look gorgeous! Don't get me wrong though, I'm not complaining, I'm just showing the 'defects', so that other buyers can make an informed decision.

    My final verdict is that the LM and MTO Meermins are too risky for their price, the quality of the results is just too volatile for me to be comfortable with it. It really is like a lottery.
     
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  13. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Well-Known Member

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    Just ordered a pair of these...

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    I hope I didn't make a mistake. Although, for the price I guess I can't be TOO choosey. I'd rather have AEs for a little extra if they turn out shite, though.
     
  14. gyasih

    gyasih Well-Known Member

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    Sure will, that was my plan. I just want Nick's opinion.
     
  15. Monkeyface

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    As long as you're ok with minor defects, such as splitting of the heels (happened on all of my Meermins) and sloppy stitching (same story), you'll be ok. I would've gone for the tassels though, they look much better!
     
  16. OzzyJones

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    Quote:I totally agree about unrealistic expectations but Meermin would have us believe we're getting a high end product at a mid-range price when far too often for comfort; we're getting a low end product at a mid-range price
     
  17. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Well-Known Member

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    I'm ok with little things. I got these as kinda "beater" shoes anyway. Anything major and I will be disappointed, though.
     
  18. gyasih

    gyasih Well-Known Member

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    Overall, I like the boots. There aren't any leather imperfections that I saw. The welting and stitching on the light brown looks much closer to normal. The nose on the brown pair looks odd.

    I agree, we should accept some risk, but really? Should we accept missing toe plates, welting that is clearly faulty? I chose Meermin for their ability to customize shoes at a fairly decent price, but the attitude of you get what you pay for doesn't always apply and nor should it be accepted. I also find it difficult to understand why their RTW shoes appear to have less issues.

    Vass ends up being a little over $100 more and comes with trees and no possibility of customs.

    It was a fun ride Meermin.
     
  19. fowler

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    My pair (dark brown) came out fine as well. There are a few very minor issues with the finishing of course, but then that's to be expected at this price point. Overall I'm absolutely delighted with how they turned out. In fact, I'm going straight back in for the recently added LM burgundy full brogue.
     
  20. Monkeyface

    Monkeyface Well-Known Member

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    Really, only a $100 difference? Isn't Vass much more expensive? I guess we should all migrate to the Vass thread.

    Don't push your luck!
     

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