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Manly Things

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by VMan, Apr 10, 2006.

  1. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Well-Known Member

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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the most manly thing of all: Talking about clothing with other guys on the internet. [​IMG]
     
  2. imageWIS

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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the most manly thing of all: Talking about clothing with other guys on the internet. [​IMG]

    Hahahahaha

    Jon.
     
  3. LA Guy

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    I actually feel powerful, if we equate that with manliness when I inform a student that they must do X, Y, and Z or they will fail their thesis and not graduate. But dipping deep fried food in Ranch dressing is pretty good too.

    bob


    I have to confess that on the rare occasion that I have had to recommend (I was the T.A., and so did not make the final call) that a student receive a failing grade, I never felt bad for the student, even when this has resulted in the student having to postpone graduation.

    The only reason I've ever recommeneded a failing grade is that the student did not show up for class and did shitty work. If you can't even be bothered to pretend to be trying, I can't feel sorry for you.
     
  4. skalogre

    skalogre Well-Known Member

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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the most manly thing of all: Talking about clothing with other guys on the internet. [​IMG]
    Wow. I retract all my past statements regarding my lack of "manliness", I am sure that this counteracts it for me then. I am a man, hear me roar! [​IMG]
     
  5. Huntsman

    Huntsman Well-Known Member

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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the most manly thing of all: Talking about clothing with other guys on the internet. [​IMG]

    Hmmm....is this entire thread compensating for this very thing?
     
  6. skalogre

    skalogre Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm....is this entire thread compensating for this very thing?
    Not for me - I would need something analogous to 50 threads to make-up for my lack of "traditional manliness" [​IMG]
     
  7. aybojs

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    Sorry Aybojs, but we're in the heart of "desperately finishing up theses" time here where I teach, so I have to say the gentlemanly thing to do would have been to work on your thesis over the course of the year and to actually care that your advisor has to read it. [Insert crying "smiley" face.]

    I actually feel powerful, if we equate that with manliness when I inform a student that they must do X, Y, and Z or they will fail their thesis and not graduate. But dipping deep fried food in Ranch dressing is pretty good too.

    bob


    Well, I wasn't one of those naive types who simply decided it would look cool to have a thesis and bit off more than he can chew. Everyone here is pretty much mandated to do it, and had I been given the choice, I would have chosen not to and instead taken a full class schedule, as that would have enabled me to learn far more than slaving away over the same trivial niche subject for a month.

    I'm no anti-intellectual, as I do an insane amount of reading, but I have very autodidatic tendencies and much prefer to pursue the Renaissance man image of having a broad range of general knowledge rather than being expected to go interminably deep into a narrow subject. Basically the thesis reflected the two factors that made decide never to have anything with academia after school: the requirement of vary narrow specialization and the publish or perish mentality. I read and study academic material because I enjoy it and find it interesting and educational; that's all that really matters to me.

    Obviously I don't expect my personal preferences to govern how academia operates, so that's fine; I just find the arbitrary assignment of this kind of work silly, being that undergraduate education has devolved into "High School, Part 2" for the majority of students, and these requirements turn more into a waste of time for many (severely distracting from other educational goals in my case, forcing an advisor to be expend time on a non-interested student in the case of others). I'm not worried about failing, as I picked a specific topic which I had some prior competence in to minimize tedious research expenditures and had enough basic analytical and writing skills to make some sort of cogent argument despite the paper's lack of polish. I just find forced specialized independent work very silly and handled it in a "manly" (i.e. rugged, stoic, etc.) fashion by saying "screw it" and just doing what I needed to to pass so I could focus on things I enjoy more (e.g. I try to read 1-2 different novels or history books on my own a week, and kept up this requirement at the expense of tedious thesis work, for example).
     
  8. Dakota rube

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    Sorry for this digression, but when my oldest daughter was about three or four years old, she wandered into the bathroom while I was urinating. She stood quietly behind me, apparently with some measure of wonder at the procedure. When I was finished, and turned around to wash my hands, she nodded to me and said, "That would be really handy." When I asked what she meant, she said it would be very handy to be able to "pee standing up. You know, like when we're camping." We still laugh about this. (And now, back to your regularly-scheduled posting.)
     
  9. rdawson808

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    I...handled it in a "manly" (i.e. rugged, stoic, etc.) fashion by saying "screw it" and just doing what I needed to to pass so I could focus on things I enjoy more.

    Not a bad policy I have to say. Accept what must be done and get it done. I wish some of my advisees had that attitude.

    On a side note: the senior thesis is supposed to be a "capstone" experience but I rarely find it to truly synthesize everything a student has learned over the previous years in the major.

    Back to the thread:

    Other manly things include taking out the garbage, raking leaves, and knowing more than my gf about cars. That makes up for my gf killing spiders and bugs for me. 'Cause I'm scared to death of spiders and most bugs just remind me of spiders.

    bob
     
  10. Huntsman

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    Not for me - I would need something analogous to 50 threads to make-up for my lack of "traditional manliness" [​IMG]

    Ah pfui. I rather think that many people who actually embody those characteristics don't even know it, due to the dilution and obfuscation of the concept of masculinity into Bubba, hippie, professional, metrosexual, and homosexual, combined with the revisionist tendency each group has upon the concept, as they all are trying to raise their concept of man and emasculate the other. "A man's first obligation is to his definition of the concept of manhood." Controlling the definition controlls the concept.

    Man, in an a priori sense, is defined by in terms of humanity, in comparison to animals, and relative to woman. I judge a man less on bluster and abilities, and more on character and restraint -- what he can, but chooses not, to do, and his relations with the women that are in or pass through his life. Breaking boulders is no measure of a man. Well-loved wife and kids must be the ultimate achievement, and respect the ultimate satisfaction.

    Regards,
    Huntsman
     
  11. jay allen

    jay allen Well-Known Member

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    Ah pfui. I rather think that many people who actually embody those characteristics don't even know it, due to the dilution and obfuscation of the concept of masculinity into Bubba, hippie, professional, metrosexual, and homosexual, combined with the revisionist tendency each group has upon the concept, as they all are trying to raise their concept of man and emasculate the other. "A man's first obligation is to his definition of the concept of manhood." Controlling the definition controlls the concept. Man, in an a priori sense, is defined by in terms of humanity, in comparison to animals, and relative to woman. I judge a man less on bluster and abilities, and more on character and restraint -- what he can, but chooses not, to do, and his relations with the women that are in or pass through his life. Breaking boulders is no measure of a man. Well-loved wife and kids must be the ultimate achievement, and respect the ultimate satisfaction. Regards, Huntsman
    I feel compelled to ask....without an ounce of disrespect......have you ever, even once, cracked a smile?
     
  12. skalogre

    skalogre Well-Known Member

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    Ah pfui. I rather think that many people who actually embody those characteristics don't even know it, due to the dilution and obfuscation of the concept of masculinity into Bubba, hippie, professional, metrosexual, and homosexual, combined with the revisionist tendency each group has upon the concept, as they all are trying to raise their concept of man and emasculate the other. "A man's first obligation is to his definition of the concept of manhood." Controlling the definition controlls the concept.

    Man, in an a priori sense, is defined by in terms of humanity, in comparison to animals, and relative to woman. I judge a man less on bluster and abilities, and more on character and restraint -- what he can, but chooses not, to do, and his relations with the women that are in or pass through his life. Breaking boulders is no measure of a man. Well-loved wife and kids must be the ultimate achievement, and respect the ultimate satisfaction.

    Regards,
    Huntsman

    Eloquent explanation Huntsman, I like it. [​IMG]
    P.s. if you were wondering, I don't have any sort of real trouble with myself; I just often find it hilarious how different I seem to be from the traditional Anglo-american norms of "manlyness" [​IMG] - although I would not mind some extra muscle mass and brawn, lol.
     
  13. Huntsman

    Huntsman Well-Known Member

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    I feel compelled to ask....without an ounce of disrespect......have you ever, even once, cracked a smile?

    Yes.

    Thursday, April 29, 2004, a little after 10:00pm. Men went silent. Mothers reached for their kids. Children screamed. [​IMG]

    Also ten thousand time before, and a couple of thousand since. I even laugh. But never without sincereity and abandon. I actaully brought up the whole rock-breaking thing, btw. Broke a few in Maine -- great state. Wish the Hiram Maxim machinegun shoot hadn't been closed down though.

    Regards,
    Huntsman
     
  14. skalogre

    skalogre Well-Known Member

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    Yes.

    Thursday, April 29, 2004, a little after 10:00pm. Men went silent. Mothers reached for their kids. Children screamed. [​IMG]

    Also ten thousand time before, and a couple of thousand since. I even laugh. But never without sincereity and abandon. I actaully brought up the whole rock-breaking thing, btw. Broke a few in Maine -- great state. Wish the Hiram Maxim machinegun shoot hadn't been closed down though.

    Regards,
    Huntsman


    Wow, I remember that day. I thought the sudden tremor felt throughout the earth was due to Engelados' rumbling [​IMG]

    Btw, what is all this about the Maxim gun? Inquiring minds et.c. [​IMG]
     
  15. jay allen

    jay allen Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Thursday, April 29, 2004, a little after 10:00pm. Men went silent. Mothers reached for their kids. Children screamed. [​IMG] Also ten thousand time before, and a couple of thousand since. I even laugh. But never without sincereity and abandon. I actaully brought up the whole rock-breaking thing, btw. Broke a few in Maine -- great state. Wish the Hiram Maxim machinegun shoot hadn't been closed down though. Regards, Huntsman
    I can tell you that you make ME laugh frequently. BTW....I completely agree with your post on fatherhood. I have two girls (12 & 2) and a boy (5) that consume virtually every waking minute of my time. If I go to my grave being considered a good father....I will be well pleased. I know Hiram well....I've got a crazy Uncle who lives there. I always refer to it as the "Stephen King" town. I've driven through there dozens of times and have NEVER seen anyone on the street. It's a spooky place that Hiram,Maine.
     
  16. Huntsman

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    Nah, I wasn't wondering, skaglore. Perhaps it was your phrase "traditional manliness" that set me off. It's something I've always been interested in, because I see the concept devolving and leading to a great deal of stupidity (I'm in college, so that's hardly a surprise). None of which implies that I don't enjoy horsepower, breaking large boulders, and other things of that ilk.

    Regards,
    Huntsman
     
  17. skalogre

    skalogre Well-Known Member

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    Nah, I wasn't wondering, skaglore. Perhaps it was your phrase "traditional manliness" that set me off. It's something I've always been interested in, because I see the concept devolving and leading to a great deal of stupidity (I'm in college, so that's hardly a surprise). None of which implies that I don't enjoy horsepower, breaking large boulders, and other things of that ilk.

    Regards,
    Huntsman


    No worries [​IMG] - I give little credibility to such societal constructs anyway because that is all that they are. Ephemeral and fluid constructs.
     
  18. rdawson808

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    Eloquent explanation Huntsman, I like it. [​IMG]
    P.s. if you were wondering, I don't have any sort of real trouble with myself; I just often find it hilarious how different I seem to be from the traditional Anglo-american norms of "manlyness" [​IMG] - although I would not mind some extra muscle mass and brawn, lol.


    Skalogre, I'm the same way. I have no problem with myself (and neither does my gf, thankfully) but others have had. I seldom watch sports (but have a weakness for Euro football and F1 racing), would rather go shopping than watch sports (except the world cup), know nothing about cars except where the gas goes and how to drive it, find that the idea of telling stories about the women I've been with to be the height of impropriety, most of my friends are women or gay men, and I love Broadway! To many men that means I'm gay. To a surprising number of women it means the same. I'm straight--I'm just not much of a "guy".


    bob
     
  19. VMan

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    Drinking beer and smoking cigarettes on your front porch on the first nice day of the year (75 degrees and sunny!!!), at 1:30 in the afternoon.
     
  20. skalogre

    skalogre Well-Known Member

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    Skalogre, I'm the same way. I have no problem with myself (and neither does my gf, thankfully) but others have had. I seldom watch sports (but have a weakness for Euro football and F1 racing), would rather go shopping than watch sports (except the world cup), know nothing about cars except where the gas goes and how to drive it, find that the idea of telling stories about the women I've been with to be the height of impropriety, most of my friends are women or gay men, and I love Broadway! To many men that means I'm gay. To a surprising number of women it means the same. I'm straight--I'm just not much of a "guy".


    bob


    You have pretty much described me (at least until the Broadway bit - the only musical I have ever enjoyed has been Miike Takashi's "Happiness of the Katakuris" [​IMG] ).
    Oh, and I like WRC more than F1 but close enough [​IMG] .
     

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