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Looking for advice from Porsche owners...

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by DerekS, May 18, 2012.

  1. DerekS

    DerekS Well-Known Member

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    theres a few good shops here. i could do the basic stuff myself...(oil changes, brakes, etc) but still prob feel more comfortable paying to have it done by someone whos done it before ;)

    cars now are so much more complex.
     
  2. Arthur PE

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    IMS = intermediate shaft, like a balance shaft or for power take off, oil pump, etc.
     
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  3. junior varsity

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    changes were made for 987.2 ... like i mentioned in my FIRST post in this thread...
    i wouldnt touch a coxster unless its 987.2 or newer
     
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    the RMS and IMS issues have been significantly overblown by the Internets. it seems like people think that these two things are ticking time bombs that will eventually blow your engine sky high, it's just a matter of when.

    in reality only a small percentage of cars seem to have this problem - it's just that the failures are reported and spread like wildfire across the car fora. if you buy a Boxster, just make sure you have a full prepurchase inspection done and get a car that has full records.

    an RMS problem isn't even a showstopper as long as it was diagnosed and fixed. and it's not like your oil suddenly all goes - it's more like a very slow seepage that may leave a drip or two on your garage floor...so it's easy to detect and really doesnt hurt your car as long as you keep the oil levels where they should be. as far as the IMS goes, you can get an upgrade for it that will significantly improve its durability, after you take delivery (or buy a car with the upgrade already performed)
     
  5. junior varsity

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    umm... IMS engine failure shows no sign on the outside...
    so it doesnt matter full service records or PPI... you cant see it
    its like HIV or cancer... silent killer

    RMS - sure its a matter of annoyance (euphemism?) , but how many times people fix it with brand new parts at porsche dealers or legitimate porsche specialist shops and it leaks again the next day/

    both are significant engine design issues... that new models (or at least newer) fixed
     
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    HRoi Well-Known Member

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    that's why you install the IMS upgrade and then you have reasonable peace of mind. sure, it's always better to buy newer and even better to buy CPO, but in case OP can only buy an older one, these problems, even out of warranty, are not the showstopper that you are making them out to be.
     
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  7. junior varsity

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    how is that economically efficient and effective man...
    you buy used for say $15k, then you spend $3-5k on getting your IMS and RMS serviced along with some other random stuff you probably need to fix the older car
    why not just save a bit longer and get something that you can rely on day in and day out...
    i mean a coxster is not a 993 thats collector worthy - so you can spend a load of dough fixing it up and have something thats a true porsche 911...
     
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    IDK about $15,000 for an early model, but I seen them as little as $7,000-12,000. Depending on miles and overall condition. I get what HRoi saying, Internet tends to blow shit out of proportion and forums are generally full of the negative. But those negatives are something a buyer should be aware of and how much those repair/fixes are and the buyers mechanical ability. Of course budget and desire to own car is consideration... The Porsche Boxster is a cool little car and will probably have a small following in 20-30 years. Like the Spitfires, Midgets, other small roadsters. Yes the bigger TR's, MG A/B, is more sought after but there little siblings still have there niche and keep the market alive. With that said, based on looks and price. I would probably go with a Boxster and still have plenty of fun in the car.
     
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  9. KurtS90

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    Also Joey-Porsche on Friends:

     
  10. junior varsity

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    i mean... if someone buys a $7000 PORSCHE convertible and gets a blown engine... they better see that shit coming because... thats why its $7000 ...
    its like maseratis are $35000 used... and people dont buy them? why? because if you cant go to your local gas station to repair a MAZ can you?
    if you go to the dealer... i dont think you can come out for less than a couple large ones... and i think its like $2/mile driven average in terms of repairs?

    used exotics are great if you can get lucky... its retarded if you picked a bad fruit
     
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    Fast google search shows about $5,000 for rebuilt engine, on a few sites I clicked (how reliable IDK)... Probably even cheaper from a good salvage yard, by my parents house we had a really nice one that would warranty the engines if running with good compression for 3 months. None of the engines cost more then $1,500, most runners was $500-800. But this is only good affordable if you could replace the engine and in a Porsche this maybe hard.
     
  12. junior varsity

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    a porsche aint a chevy malibu mang...
    putting in salvage yard motors in porsches and exotics is like real ghetto
    its like i wanna punch some one when they even put regular in a bimmer...
    its like you drop 50gs on a car and cant afford 20 cents extra on premium?
     
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    I don't really consider a Boxster exotic and there's nothing wrong with putting salvage motors in cars. More so if its not some special or limited run car you intend to drive...
     
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    Boxsters are pretty much the best handling cars in the world. Just a little down on power, but that is Porsche's strategy for protecting the 911. Otherwise a cheaper Boxster would put a 911 in the weeds

    Get the latest one with direct injection; even a Spyder if you can afford it.

    I would gladly own a Boxster, and I own two classic air-cooled jobs.
     
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  15. junior varsity

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    i mean... if my m5 blows the motor... i'll just send it to a tuner shop and have forged internals built in ...
    im not throwing in another piece of shit engine ... thats just doesnt sound right and an M deserves better
     
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    elise? exige? those handle better than coxster/gayman
    but i agree, for what it is.... its a nasty car - as long as OP gets his mind right and gets a newer updated model...
    elise and exige are nice but not daily drivable...
    porsche doesnt matter if its coxster or turbo s... its pretty damn comfortable for daily ... and has room for storage
     
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    An M is somewhat special and a limited run car. E39 for example had an estimated production number if I recall around 20,000? I loved that car, but not sure on exact numbers. But point is not so many of them made, probably 25-35% wrecked by now... But in a car like that, I would keep number matching and have the engine rebuilt. But the Boxtster? I see at least 2-3 a day, pretty sure the production was high on that one. So putting a none number matching engine in a Boxster in my eyes is no big deal.

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  18. hypoluxo

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    I love my '02 XKR. It is a substantial car, but with 370 HP it will move down the road with ease. The plastic part mentioned in a previous thread is the cam chain tensioner. It was plastic up until mid-2001 when it was changed to metal.
    [​IMG]

    The best source for Porsche info is at Rennlist. I know you said you were too lazy to register at another forum, but you can peruse the forum without registering.
     
  19. GQgeek

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    one word: evora.

    That's my realistic dream car.
     
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  20. Arthur PE

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    nothing wrong with putting a remanufactured or a low mileage salvage engine in a BMW M, Porsche etc. (unless some rare vintage car)
    you may not have a choice depending on failure mode, such as rod through the block

    my buddy has an Elise (yellow with stripes, anniversary edition or something), nice car, but not much more compared to the Boxster S
    The Porsche can be driven daily, the Lotus is like a go-kart, no 300 mile trips in it for sure, you're glad to get out of it
    the Boxster/cayman are amazing handlers, and the newer ones have good power
     
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