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LOAKE APPRECIATION & SHOE P0RN THREAD

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by wurger, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. Yowzer

    Yowzer Well-Known Member

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    Good stuff, cheerio.
     
  2. Mr Knightley

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    Quote:Thanks for the Topy comments. I have tended to have them fitted to more casual shoes but have not done so where more 'formal' styles are concerned. If the day comes when, despite the protection afforded by the Topy, you need to send the shoes back to the manufacturer for a re-sole is there any penalty to pay financially or otherwise?
     
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    For me, the whole point of topy is that I will never need to send the shoes back to manufacturers to resole, and the added grip.
     
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    I think that the big part of the price difference between the "made in england" lines (1880/Shoemakers) depends from the imported sewed uppers for the Shoemakers line, and clearly from the quality of raw materials, better in 1880, the finish is pretty the same.
     
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    interesting, Alex, it does make sense, however, how do we know that they are imported?
     
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    You're in luck as you're in England which makes it so much easier to get it rebuilt. Us poor sods from across the world have to stump nearly the price of a brand new shoe just for that (if we can dare to pull the trigger, hence one reason for the topy as wurger said). But yes, some manufacturers (don't know which) do not entertain resoling/refurbishing if work has been done on the shoe by others.

    Loake's little book (which comes with the shoes) does mention not to put an additional layer on the sole but silent on whether they do refurb regardless. A bit silly in my book as it is still a customer for Loake. After all, if the customer is willing to pay for it, it makes good business sense to do so. May be worth asking Loake directly, they're quite responsive from experience. Then you can let us know here [​IMG]

    Some would argue putting a topy would make the leather shoe look ugly and would beat the purpose of getting a leather shoe with a leather sole in the first place. It's a matter of perception really and what's acceptable to the end-user.

    Interesting... That would mean slightly lower quality leather for the Shoemaker line then.
     
  7. wurger

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    Good points, Yowzer.

    here is my views:

    I don't see how a worn leather sole is better looking than a rubber sole.

    Getting a pair of shoes with leather soles is because nearly all of the top end dress shoes are leather soled, it's not like we have a choice if we want to buy nice shoes. I have never seen topy over rubber goodyear welt soles because there is no point on doing it, but it does mean that once rubber sole is worn out, a resole is required. While topy over leather can be easily replaced.
     
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    Quote:I think for the most formal shoes like a classic black Oxford I personally agree with that view. I did check with Church's about adding a topy and whether they would still repair and, although their answer was a little less than clear it was enough for me to decide not to put topy's on them. Church's charge £100 now for a resole, new sock and heel - for those of us in England. Not checked with Loake but I might do that.
     
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    Loake charge £65.00 per pair, inclusive of return postage within the UK and VAT. This covers re-soling on the original last with new soles and heels, fitting new seat socks and re-finishing the upper part of the shoes.

    it is pretty good value for the UK folks.
     
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  10. Yowzer

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    Now, which part is the 'sock'?
     
  11. wurger

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    It's the insole.
     
  12. Yowzer

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    Hmmm... getting technical. haha [​IMG]
     
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    wurger, you said before that the Drake on the 1966 is similar to the Capital. Is it actually tighter than the Capital, say similar to the AS 724?
     
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    Yes, you are right, it's more similar to AS 724, at least that's how it feels for me.
     
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    How many colors of brown suede do Loake offer? I'd like a pair or two, and the price for the Shoemaker line suede shoes is very tempting. I can't tell if the Paisley monk and the 758 bal (from the Shoemaker collection) are the same color, or slightly different. Does anybody know if that's the exact same color as the brown suede Kempton from the 1880 line?

    Any help would be appreciated.
     
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    Nope, 758 is dark brown suede, and suedes look different in different lighting, it's very hard to be exact.
     
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    Topy will not affect the welt. Welt damage is the main reason manufacturers will refuse shoes repaired by others.

    Thanks for the costing on Church factory repair. I knew the Loake cost.

    My view on Topy is that it is fine for cheaper shoes -Loake Royals etc. I also have Topy on RM Williams because return to maker is too far/costly and I am not sure how good the welt would stand up to frequnt repair.

    For better shoes and those with Oak tanned soles I do not bother with Topys. So that applies to C&J, Lobb, Trickers & Church's. I do put Blakeys on the front though.

    I miss the old Woolworths stick on soles. You could buy them by shoe size. They were easy to apply and they were as cheap as chips. You could remove them easily too. So a manufacturer would be the none the wiser if for some reason you wanted them to work on your shoe.
     
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    Nice to see Loake getting some love around here :)
     
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    Thanks. The difference is much more pronounced there than in Herring's photos. The only problem, of course, is that now I'm pretty sure I want one of each...

    Probably going to make the Aldwych my first, though. Might give the Cannon a shot.
     

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