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Livestrong

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Bradford, Dec 7, 2004.

  1. Bradford

    Bradford Well-Known Member

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    Just curious if anyone else has taken the plunge and is wearing one of the yellow Livestrong bracelets from the Lance Armstrong Foundation? Livestrong I am. They are $1 each and proceeds go to cancer research. Bradford
     
  2. Bergdorf Goodwill

    Bergdorf Goodwill Well-Known Member

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    Seems a bit Y2K4 enormous "CHOOSE LIFE" T-shirt to me, albeit with a bit more subtlety.

    Donation without flaunting seems like a better idea. Just seems gaudy.
     
  3. Renault78law

    Renault78law Well-Known Member

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    I've been wearing one since July. Doesn't seem particularly gaudy to me.
     
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    I wore mine all summer and I had a lot of comments from mountain and road bikers, but now I see too many people wearing them, so I've stopped. I don't find them particularly gaudy either.

    Aaron
     
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    Not guady in my opinion just don't like them to much. I would say they are more tacky. Its nice to see people donating money to cancer research though.
     
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    You can also see this as a way of attracting more people to the cause: making other people donate money to wear the bracelet.

    However, I do not like bracelets, and that bracelet is kind of ugly. I would rather donate the $1 and forget about wearing a bracelet.
     
  7. Bergdorf Goodwill

    Bergdorf Goodwill Well-Known Member

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    (orbitingio @ 07 Dec. 2004, 07:47) Seems a bit Y2K4 enormous "CHOOSE LIFE" T-shirt to me, albeit with a bit more subtlety. Donation without flaunting seems like a better idea. Â Just seems gaudy.
    You can also see this as a way of attracting more people to the cause:  making other people donate  money to wear the bracelet. However, I do not like bracelets, and that bracelet is kind of ugly.  I would rather donate the $1 and forget about wearing a bracelet.
    Just strikes me as specious at best. It's not as though awareness for cancer needs to be raised, it's pretty well ingrained in the collective consciousness. Not certain what yellow bits of plastic about the wrist are doing to help matters or "raise awareness" or what have you. I suppose the "tacky" adjective used by a poster above fits a bit better than my own "gaudy."
     
  8. Renault78law

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    (joseanes @ 07 Dec. 2004, 2:04)
    Seems a bit Y2K4 enormous "CHOOSE LIFE" T-shirt to me, albeit with a bit more subtlety. Donation without flaunting seems like a better idea. Â Just seems gaudy.
    You can also see this as a way of attracting more people to the cause:  making other people donate  money to wear the bracelet. However, I do not like bracelets, and that bracelet is kind of ugly.  I would rather donate the $1 and forget about wearing a bracelet.
    Just strikes me as specious at best. Â It's not as though awareness for cancer needs to be raised, it's pretty well ingrained in the collective consciousness. Â Not certain what yellow bits of plastic about the wrist are doing to help matters or "raise awareness" or what have you. Â I suppose the "tacky" adjective used by a poster above fits a bit better than my own "gaudy."
    Well, about 4 million people who otherwise wouldn't have donated anything, donated a dollar to his cause. Many more checked out the website and/or read his book about overcoming cancer. You don't count that as raising awareness?
     
  9. Bergdorf Goodwill

    Bergdorf Goodwill Well-Known Member

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    (orbitingio @ 07 Dec. 2004, 2:26)
    Seems a bit Y2K4 enormous "CHOOSE LIFE" T-shirt to me, albeit with a bit more subtlety. Donation without flaunting seems like a better idea. Â Just seems gaudy.
    You can also see this as a way of attracting more people to the cause:  making other people donate  money to wear the bracelet. However, I do not like bracelets, and that bracelet is kind of ugly.  I would rather donate the $1 and forget about wearing a bracelet.

    Just strikes me as specious at best. Â It's not as though awareness for cancer needs to be raised, it's pretty well ingrained in the collective consciousness. Â Not certain what yellow bits of plastic about the wrist are doing to help matters or "raise awareness" or what have you. Â I suppose the "tacky" adjective used by a poster above fits a bit better than my own "gaudy."
    Well, about 4 million people who otherwise wouldn't have donated anything, donated a dollar to his cause. Â Many more checked out the website and/or read his book about overcoming cancer. Â You don't count that as raising awareness?
    That $4 million to cancer research is a Good Thing is not really a point of contention. The bracelets themselves just seem like so much useless tokenism -- see the refrigerator magnets people slap on their cars, the ribbon war against autoimmune deficiencies, American flag lapel pins...
     
  10. Renault78law

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    You said that 1) the logic behind wearing the band to attract more people to the cause was specious, and 2) that cancer awareness doesn't need to be raised. Those are the points of contention, right?

    We can argue about the disadvantages of using this method to raise awareness, but it seems irrefutable to me that it actually worked.

    Although everyone's heard of 'cancer', I still think cancer awareness needs to be raised. Unless someone's had it, or read about it in detail, few know anything about the disease or what survivors have gone through to conquer it.
     
  11. Bergdorf Goodwill

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    Makes enough sense, but based on my experience with people who wear them, it's a cutesy accessory used in place of actual caring or knowledge. This obviously doesn't apply to you. I suppose the Midwestern redneck "activism" I see in these parts (Ohio) just gets to me, didn't intend to lash out or anything.

    It gets very tiresome seeing people buy into the Coalition of Causes That Are Really Easy to Get Behind ("diseases are bad."), you know?

    I suppose in the end it's all just money going to cancer research, and that's not hurting anything.
     
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    One of the advantages of the "Live Strong" bracelets in my opinion is that is reaches out to different generations.  From teenie boppers to baby boomers (I haven't seen anyone in their late 60-70s wearing them yet but i'm sure there are a few out there).  I don't know to many 14 year old kids who would give money to cancer research, i don't even know to many college kids with limited income giving money for research, but they get something out of it by buying the bracelets so they don't see it as giving out free money.  Even if they don't care about the research and just buy the  bracelet if they think its "cool" I think thats great cause its money to help a great cause.  Any as raising awareness i think it doesn't really raise awareness, i see them on par with the stickers that say "be nice to me i gave blood today"  they are just a symbol about giving money to help others out, which i feel is a bit lost due to them becoming so trending but again i say more money to the cause is a great thing, money is money.

    my .02
     
  13. Brian SD

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    The fact that they are gaudy or trendy is completely unobjectionable when the money is going to cancer research. It's simply amazing to me that a good cause is becoming so popular. I do not have one myself, but I like to see them - not that it makes me feel that the person wearing it is sensitive or special, just that it makes me glad to see so much going towards medical research.
     
  14. Rabbi Mark

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    Not cool.

    It makes the wearer look like he just came from a public swimming pool at the local rec center. "All those with the yellow band must exit the swimming facilities at 3 pm ... those with the red band are from 3 pm to 4:15 pm ..."

    I'd give $5 to Lance's cancer fund NOT to have to wear the stupid band.
     
  15. Mike C.

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    The band is a bit rediculous, especially since you see John Kerry and Tom Brokaw wearing them. However, it is a genius campaign to raise money and awareness for cancer research.
     
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    Absolutely, my father is a recent survivor, at least to date...it make me feel better inside, knowing that I have a reminder for a prayer every morning...strange thing Cancer, does not care who you are or how good a person you are, if you get it, you get it
     
  17. chorse123

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    I find them odious, a congratulation to oneself for being charitable that actually has very little to do with being charitable. But I'm also not a fan of gratuitious flag waving either, which has nothing to do with being a patriot or a good citizen.

    I do think it's great that money is going to research--two of my family members are cancer researchers, and were it not for grants, they wouldn't have jobs or be advancing science.
     

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