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Linen sportscoat with peak lapels?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by thinman, Mar 20, 2007.

  1. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I've ever seen an actual patch ticket pocket. I have seen it depicted in AA illustrations, however. I have never been able to warm up to it.

    I've never seen one in real life, but seems like I've seen a picture of one. Quirky. Reminds me a bit of the ticket pocket placement on Get Smart's Thick as Thieves suits.
     
  2. gdl203

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    its on the breast pocket side too? [​IMG]
     
  4. zjpj83

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    its on the breast pocket side too? [​IMG]

    Maybe he's lefthanded?
     
  5. Film Noir Buff

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    I need to add several lightweight jackets to my wardrobe, so I've been thinking about having a linen jacket made. I truly like one-button, peak lapel styling and I'm considering this style in cream or tan linen, with side vents, a ticket pocket, and hacking pockets. Since linen is inherently casual, would this styling be too much of a mongrel to look good? Keep in mind that I would select a fabric with enough texture to avoid its being mistaken for a dinner jacket. Of course, a conservative, consistent styling option would be 2-button jacket with notch lapels, patch and flap hip pockets, and patch breast pocket, but why not be adventurous?

    Also, what other options are available for lightweight jackets, keeping in mind that I'm not a big fan of seersucker (vertical stripes on tall, thin guys don't look great).

    What is the collective wisdom of the forum? I'd like to know your opinions.



    Ordinarily I would be skeptical bu a friend of mine got a cream (like that British Egyptologist shade) linen suit with peak lapels. It looked very good. Probably because it is unexpected. Is it a mongrel? Hmm, maybe but if it looks good so who cares? I think it's OK for an odd jacket too. But why wouldnt you get a suit?

    Are peak lapels too formal for the linen jacket? Perhaps but like a DB seersucker, there is something natty about that sort of attention to detail on something which is basically to fend off the heat.

    Patch pockets with a peak lapel are ordinarily a no no but maybe this would also be natty for this jacket.

    Hacking pockets would be pushing it, unless they are your signature. Also, I believe those make you look taller. One thing, my tailor says they usually only look good on people with the English posture which is ramrod straight.

    I would say the ticket pocket is more a mistake. I would say two buttons too. Te buttons will offset some of the expanse of tan linen which wouldnt be as big of an effect on a dark suit.

    I think a SB peak with normal pockets (no ticket pocket) is exciting enough or patch pockets if you like.

    The patch ticket pocket is interesting but maybe not for this jacket.

    I don't quite understand picking a linen with texture so that it isnt mistaken for a dinner jacket. Were you thinking of an Irish linen in a 10 oz? No one is going to think that's a dinner jacket if it's two button. I have a hard time believing anyone would think it a DJ anyway, unless you wore a formal shirt and black/blue bowtie with midnight blue pants with cummerbund, black silk braid and pumps. Presumably youll be wearing this jacket with grey or olive or khaki green wool or linen pants?
     
  6. SGladwell

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    I'm going to sound a note of contrarianism here. Part of having one's own style is being able to operate outside the "rules" in a tasteful way. While my taste in summer jackets is more half-lined wool frescoes than linen, I think a linen peaked lapel (with, as others have noted, Jil Sander-style thin peaks) with patch pockets and a patch ticket pocket would be an absolutely kick-ass jacket. I'd go more darker than cream, but that probably depends more than anything on your complexion. (The darker you are, the lighter you can go with the jacket.) I think the bigger concern than it being out of date is that you might wear the thing until it's in tatters. FNB's suggestion of a two-button is a good idea. And maybe on the sleeves do two buttons as well, spaced vintage BB style.

    And thanks, gdl203, for that picture. Would you happen to have any other shots of that jacket you can post? I once saw a patch ticket pockets like the one posted (except on the other side) on an RTW Attolini, and I decided that I had to have something like that in my wardrobe but haven't gotten around to it yet. Alas, that was before camera phones, so I never got a shot of it. I'm going to print that picture and take it with me when I visit Knize this summer for my wedding stroller. Maybe I'll do the Stresemann at Knize but try Netousek or Peppino for the sportcoat...
     
  7. meister

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    What is the problem with peak lapels with the move to 30s vintage looks?

    You could have MTM in BKK from one of those tailors who are offering Irish linen.
     
  8. Winot

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    Wow! Near unanimity of opinion so far! (and it isn't even a black suit thread)

    I wouldn't want to go with a DB linen jacket or a 3-piece suit, since I want something to wear in warm weather. I'd also hate to see it end up as a kitty litter box. I'll probably forego peak lapels and also the hacking pockets, as Jan reminds me of their origin. However, I _am_ tall and thin, so I like horizontal details like ticket pockets. I don't recall ever seeing a ticket pocket combined with patch pockets, so I'm not even sure it can be done. Also, if I go with patch pockets, are patch-and-flap pockets OK with linen?

    Thanks for the great input. It's nice to know I have a dependable check on my crazy ideas right here.


    thinman - if it helps, I started a similar thread on AAAC.
     
  9. tiger02

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    I'm going to sound a note of contrarianism here. Part of having one's own style is being able to operate outside the "rules" in a tasteful way. While my taste in summer jackets is more half-lined wool frescoes than linen, I think a linen peaked lapel (with, as others have noted, Jil Sander-style thin peaks) with patch pockets and a patch ticket pocket would be an absolutely kick-ass jacket. I'd go more darker than cream, but that probably depends more than anything on your complexion. (The darker you are, the lighter you can go with the jacket.) I think the bigger concern than it being out of date is that you might wear the thing until it's in tatters. FNB's suggestion of a two-button is a good idea. And maybe on the sleeves do two buttons as well, spaced vintage BB style.
    +1 on the contrarian impulse, +1 on two buttons...hell +1 on all of it.
     
  10. Manton

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    [​IMG]

    No, the ones I mean had a ticket pocket on the right side, 100% visible above the main pocket. Like this, but a jacket:

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Master Shake

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    What is the deal with the trousers depicted in the illustration?
     
  12. sammy

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    My $0.02: SB, 1-button, notch lapels, patch pockets, side vents.

    I plan to do this for my next sport jacket.
     
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    What is the deal with the trousers depicted in the illustration?

    Not sure, but I think those are equestrian trousers.
     
  14. itsstillmatt

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    Not sure, but I think those are equestrian trousers.
    They are gayer than a velvet jacket.
     
  15. Stu

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    Hacking pockets are a feature borrowed from riding jackets, and a cream colored linen jacket just doesn't seem "on" for galloping around the English countryside.

    Also I believe they are a feature more consistent with winter odd jackets in heavier fabric, plaids and stuff. Hence out of season for a linen jacket.
     
  16. thinman

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    Still considering the peak lapels with patch pockets, though I'll certainly forego hacking pockets and will probably go 2-button and dispense with a ticket pocket as well. Since I have very long arms, I'll go with 4 sleeve buttons. In any event, I'll update the forum on my eventual choice, though it may not happen until I meet with Chan in July. Thanks to all for helping to clarify my thinking.

    Winot, thanks also for linking your thread on AAAC. I had somehow missed it.
     
  17. RJman

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    They are gayer than a velvet jacket.

    Than a leather Forestiere?
     
  18. dave

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    RLPL has one something like what you are talking about. I saw a navy pinstriped version at Neiman's in Houston last weekend and I was quite taken by it.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    Than a leather Forestiere?
    Gayer than two men on top of a bus terminal.
     
  20. LabelKing

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    Arnys sells those in corduroy and appropriately, velvet.
     

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