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Lets talk about COFFEE

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Flambeur, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. A Y

    A Y Well-Known Member

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    You guys are right. Yirgacheffes can show blueberry flavors as well, as the Peet's ESN shows. I'm so used to washed YCs with their floral, acidy flavors that I keep forgetting that.
     
  2. lefty

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    Y, do me a favour and post when Peet's releases anything interesting. One of the few retailers I don't mind ordering from.

    Thanks.
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    A Y Well-Known Member

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    Will do. In the meantime, have you tried their two new Indonesian coffees? It's not my thing, but you may like their flavor profiles.
     
  4. lefty

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    Sumatran peaberry? No, but I'll give one a shot. My favourite coffee is Balinese so the Sumatran should be somewhat close.

    lefty
     
  5. A Y

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    Yes, and it uses a milling method ("semi-washed" or wet-hulling as Peet's calls it) unique to that region, which gives many coffees there their unique taste.
     
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  6. LesterG

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    I just bought a new espresso machine. The Rancilio Silvia with the Rocky grinder. So far so good. Been trying various beans with it but have been looking to try the Black Cat espresso from Intelligentsia. Has anyone tried their beans yet? It is not cheap and shipping is not cheap, which kind of irks me. I am happy to pay good money for the beans, or anything else for that matter, but shipping should be free above a certain amount. Am I off on this line of thinking? Anyway, thanks!
     
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  8. MikeDT

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    My favourite coffee comes from Mongolia.
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    "American Flavour" by Coffeeking of Ulan Bator.
     
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  9. otc

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    I signed up for the Tonx trial but I don't think I will keep it (sorry, your referral link will not come to anything).

    I usually only make coffee at home on the weekend, and not that much. I figure tonx works out to ~5 cups a weekend (at 17g in an aeropress) so there will be a lot of waste. Since they ship mondays, I'll always be using the oldest beans since I won't use them until they have already sat around for a week.

    I can get plenty good coffee here for less so I guess it just doesn't make sense for me (especially considering you are paying $24 for less than a pound of coffee)
     
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    Nothing says quality like Coffeeking 3 in 1 Instant Coffeemix.
     
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    That's the best coffee there is around here, specially imported as well. They just don't drink much coffee in Xilinhot. :D

    What I don't get is why the front is written in English? Yet on back of the Coffeeking sachets, all the important stuff like directions and ingrediants, etc, is all in Mongolian Cyrillic.
     
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  12. otc

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    Well no shit...
    I signed up for the trial after using the referral link. Got my package today and it came with the V60 pourover.

    It's just the $10 plastic model, but I figured I wouldn't get anything unless I was a paying customer...off to try out the pourover since today's pots of office coffee weren't very good (can't use the Tonx beans though since I don't have a grinder here, but we do have some intelligentsia grounds I can use)
     
  13. lefty

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    Received Tonx trial last night and drank this morning. It was okay - nothing earth shattering.

    Cancelled my subscription. Thanks for the V60, Tonx.

    lefty
     
  14. A Y

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    lefty, planning on some coffee masochism with that pourover?

    The little valve nipple thing just broke off on my CCD rendering it effectively a pourover cone, and while waiting for its replacement, I've been using the Aeropress for the last couple of days. The most interesting difference between the CCD and the Aeropress (both nominally full-immersion brewers) is that the Aeropress brews significantly lighter coffee. I don't think it's underextracted, but the resulting brew is lighter in color, more transparent to light, and really emphasizes the fruit notes in the coffee. It's like what the CCD is to press pot, the Aeropress is to the CCD. There is definitely much less traditional coffee flavor.

    I've tried the same brew parameters, and the Aeropress is still lighter. For example, I still use a 6% ratio (12g grounds to 196g water in the AP, and 22/360 in the CCD), same grind size, same immersion time (3 minutes), same water temps, and paper filters. The Aeropress had to be used upside down to do this. The only difference is that the press time of the AP is much faster than the drain time of the CCD, at around 15 seconds compared to 1 minute. Maybe I'll try a 4-minute immersion time, but I'm not sure that will change things that much.

    edit: another thought just occurred to me: I could remove the Aeropress plunger, and just let it drain instead of pressing the coffee through.
     
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    I did go through some coffee masochism this week - someone wanted to meet at Starbucks and I agreed.

    Bit of a dyed-in-the-wool press guy but I might try the V60 with a chemex filter for fun.

    lefty
     
  16. otc

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    Made it through my tonx sample this weekend.

    Sample had enough coffee for 3.5 trips through the aeropress (according to their directions which called for 14g of coffee and 225g water).

    Never really got it dialed in. First pass was too sour so I dialed the grind down a bit. Second pass was still too sour. This morning I dialed it down more, and ended up bitter. I made the last little bit, 6-7g, with the grind one click larger. Used about 115-120g water and followed the same method but cut the total time down.

    This made the only cup I really liked...but not blown away. Certainly not worth the premium they command.

    My gf signed up for the trial the other day, so she will probably end up getting a different type of beans. We'll see if those end up tasting any better.
     
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    I actually didn't care too much for the flavor of the last shipment either, it has sort of a perfumy taste. The previous 5 or 6 have all been great. Hoping this weeks will be back to expectations.
     
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    So what were the Tonx beans for this shipment? Perfumy indicates some kind of floral component, which can be prized, if it's balanced correctly.

    I was just reading their website to try to find this information and couldn't (I hate oversimplified, dumbed-down design like that), and saw that they ship within 24 hours of roast. Often, coffee needs at least 48 hours of rest before it's at its best, and many will develop more over a week after roast. Maybe the beans need a bit more time before they're brewed?

    I was at my local Peet's the other day, and tried out their New Java bean. It's really good with a hint of spice in the coffee, but then I noticed it's no longer available. Anyway, I was surprised to see that the baristas were doing a cupping between 3 of their blends for themselves. I really believe that Peet's is by far the best mass-market coffee shop, and beats many hipster coffee boutiques as well, including some well-regarded ones, in both service and quality of coffee.
     
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    I'll check when I get home. For some reason Indonesia sticks out in my brain. The typically roast on Sundays and the beans usually arrive (at least to my house in PA) on Wednesday or Thursday. We don't typically get into the new batch until the following Monday. The weekends brews are reserved for an Austrian kaffee we love, shipped to us by SF member hansderhund. IT is truly spectacular....but shipping to the US is pricey. Hit him up for a taste.
     
  20. otc

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    My sample definitely said Peru on it.
     

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