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Leather Arts & Crafts MOTO (Aoyama--Tokyo, Japan) Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Kashiwa, May 5, 2012.

  1. AlexanderTG

    AlexanderTG Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys,

    I'm trying to decide on a pair of Moto Chukkas.

    With wide 9.5 feet would I be wise to go with a 3 and wear an insole if needed rather than a 2?

    Also, from your experience which are more versatile: the brown or black?

    Just got turned onto them from poking around Silver and Gold.

    The (edit) desert boots are awful nice, too. So hard to choose.

    Thanks.
     
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  2. Brattman

    Brattman Well-Known Member

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    I'd recommend a size 3. I wear a US 10, and the 3 fits spot on for me in the cordovan plain toe oxford.
     
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  3. nigritude

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    For PTB, brown is probably more versatile (and the color depth is insane). Although black is equally beautiful... You really can't go wrong with either
     
  4. AlexanderTG

    AlexanderTG Well-Known Member

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    Got my brown MOTOs today, direct from MOTO.

    They told me, based on my foot length (27.5 cm) that a size 3 is what I needed.

    Well, they're awfully big on me. I put in a Superfeet insole and tied the laces tight and I can make it work. But man, do I wish I had gotten a 2.

    I measured them and they're 32 cm long on the outsole. Only other pair of shoes that comes close to that length of mine is my CCP derbies.

    So, are these just supposed to be a long shoe?

    They fit fine width-wise.

    As I had them Vibram them at the workshop I'm doubtful I could return them. Just figured I'd ask/commiserate with you guys.

    Thanks.


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  5. cold war painter

    cold war painter Well-Known Member

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    They don't look overly long from the outside - obviously it's how they feel to you.

    What sizes are you usually? I'm generally a UK8 and I think I figured that out to be a 2 in Moto, although I don't own any as yet.
     
  6. AlexanderTG

    AlexanderTG Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, they look okay in the pics, I guess. But I didn't really want to have to use an insole. My foot definitely is a little loose and I can see with wear that it would probably just get worse. Edit: I'm a size US 9.5 so the 2 should be perfect. I guess I don't own too many pairs of dress shoes but 6.5 cm extra from toe to tip is probably not preferred.

    But the good news is that they're going to exchange them for me! I just have to pay shipping.

    So, in a few weeks I'll be (hopefully) much happier with my MOTOs.
     
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  7. cold war painter

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    That is good news. Are you in Japan? I heard they don't tend to ship outside the country and much prefer you to buy instore.
     
  8. AlexanderTG

    AlexanderTG Well-Known Member

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    Nope. I'm in the U.S.

    I wrote them through their contact page on their website and they've been more than helpful.

    I'm just hoping the width doesn't change drastically from a 3 to a 2. But I'm sure they'll stretch. Id rather snug than loose.

    Just kind of feels like a kid putting on his dad's shoes with a 3. ;)
     
  9. zissou

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    What did you pay for them, Alexander? I might be interested, which would save you from paying shipping to JP.
     
  10. AlexanderTG

    AlexanderTG Well-Known Member

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    Just PM'd you. An hour too late. Sorry.

    To answer your question, though, they were $650 plus an extra $28 to Vibram them.
     
  11. zissou

    zissou Well-Known Member

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    No worries! Thanks.
     
  12. nigritude

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    whoa, i did not know you could get them to vibram it for you!
     
  13. AlexanderTG

    AlexanderTG Well-Known Member

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    Was their suggestion. I figured it was about the same price as in the US (for just the front portion) and they'd be sure it was absolutely perfect before sending it out.

    Looks like it'll be a couple of weeks before I get my 2s but it'll be worth it.
     
  14. AlexanderTG

    AlexanderTG Well-Known Member

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    Just received my exchange from MOTO. Had to send back the 3 and got a 2.

    They fit much better. But they are *still* roomy. I may end up putting an insole in just to make it snug. I don't know if they changed their sizing or not. But I'm a 9.5 with wide feet and these are quite generous on me. Just an FYI for anyone wondering.

    12.25" outsole and just over 4" wide.

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    But they were extremely nice at the company and I would recommend dealing directly with them if possible.

    They will even Vibram them for an extra ¥30k ($28).
     
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  15. Dino19

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    @ Alex - is yours CXL or Cow Leather?
     
  16. AlexanderTG

    AlexanderTG Well-Known Member

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    Cordovan. Shinki Cordovan (if that matters)
     
  17. Dino19

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    ^ that's sweet.

    I emailed to ask about the Oxford with Vibram. Not sure if I'll get a reply.
     
  18. AlexanderTG

    AlexanderTG Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure you will. They are extremely prompt and courteous. Good luck. They're a fantastic shoe. Even turned a few heads over in the baller shoe/boot thread. :)

    Edit: not sure what size you are, but if you take a MOTO size 3 they have mine sitting on a shelf (presumedly) waiting for somebody to ask. Those babies would get to you in a week.
     
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  19. cold war painter

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    Thanks for sharing your experiences. I was very close to ordering a pair of desert longs a couple of years ago but it looks like they've pulled that model now, at least it's no longer on the website:

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    (There are a couple more good photos on the first page of this thread.)

    I could email them, I suppose ..
     
  20. Dino19

    Dino19 Well-Known Member

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    I'm most likely a 1 from the info I gathered.

    Hopefully I can get a pair, but it's a tough choice between the Brown & Antique. Brown looks vintage to me & like a finished product while Antique would probably evolve like the Natural CXL, aged & patina.
     

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