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J crew ludlow alternative?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by sjbush, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. sjbush

    sjbush New Member

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    I'm a relatively young guy looking for a suit that reflects that. I'm also new to buying suits so I don't entirely know what I'm doing. I really like the look of the j crew ludlow. I'm reading on this forum that could get better quality for the same price point elsewhere. I'm fine with that. Can you point me to an good alternative that is similar is cut? If it helps, I'm 6-0", 185lbs. (not sure I can pull off the ludlow). Every OTR suit I've tried is too wide in the shoulder for my chest size. Any recommendations?

    My choices are very limited in terms of local stores. I'm guessing I'll end up purchasing online. But I'm very hesitant to do so without trying it on first. I get frustrated because every website I go to has a slim fit, modern fit, very slim fit, classic fit, etc. They all have there own definition. Without trying them on, I don't know if they will fit properly. Any advise? How do you all purchase?

    Next question, what is everyone's opinion of cotton suits? Will they stay in style for years to come? I like the casual look and am leaning towards that. Will I find one in a medium gray? Or do they usually come in lighter colors?
     
  2. Ianiceman

    Ianiceman Well-Known Member

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    There's a long thread with lots of good info on Suitsupply. Their prices are comparable to J Crew and quality is better IMO. They also have several cuts, see their website and the thread for more details. IMO Suitsupply's fabrics can be a little too jazzy for business but they still have several navy gray and charcoal fabrics too. The other good news is that they are expanding, plus they do free shipping both ways so if your choice doesn't work out you don't get stiffed for shipping costs.

    Cotton is appropriate in the warmer months, and generally less business/formal events. Nothing wrong with it per se, but not a good choice for your first couple of suits.
     
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  3. zerostyle

    zerostyle Well-Known Member

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    I think the difference, though, is that you can often get JCrew at a considerable discount. Their $300-$400 blazers can usually be found for $200 on sale. It doesn't seem that SuitSupply ever runs sales.

    OP, let me know what you find. The Ludlow fit is almost perfect on me - chest/waist/length. The only problem for me is the shoulders are about 0.5-1" too wide which leads to a bit of puckering in my arms. Another gripe is their skinny lapels, but in a 38 it's not too bad.

    I've been looking for an inexpensive ($200 or less) casual slim blazer for a long time but haven't had much luck for any of these reasons:
    - shoulders too wide
    - length too long in 38R but too short in 38S (ludlow is perfect in an R!)
    - functional buttoncuffs (this trend needs to f*ing die)
    - not a fan of patch pockets, but could deal with this

    Of the current offerings, here's what I've seen:

    H&M / Gap / Old Navy - low quality

    Uniqlo - really high button stance, fairly low quality, maybe could be ok

    SuitSupply - need to check in person, but pricey and has functioning buttoncuffs. Also, according to their measurements, they have very wide shoulders.

    BB Fitzgerald/Regent Blazers - nice, but $400

    Charles Tyrwhitt blazer - didn't like how it fit on me- had an odd V shape to it

    Banana Republic Tailored fit - I'm told these are nice and plan on checking them out. Unfortunately, it seems their current navy blazer offering is 3 button instead of 2 button (ugh)

    Anyone I'm missing?
     
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  4. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    Boglioli for less than $200 on sale. Less than $100 for defect.

    RL Black Label suits for ~$400 on sale.

    Go to work.
     
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  5. zerostyle

    zerostyle Well-Known Member

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    I was looking at Boglioli , LBM 1911, etc, but I think the recurring problem was functional buttoncuffs! This is really annoying since I almost always have to have my sleeves adjusted by 1.5"+, which means expensive alterations.

    Where are you seeing Boglioli for those prices?
     
  6. svelten

    svelten Well-Known Member

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    I'm not even sure if this is trolling or sarcasm. It's not remotely frequent that you can pop in and bag a $100 Boglioli or $400 RLBL suit, and trying to find a used suit on the Buy&Sale in the color, cut and size that you want (without even trying on) is not good advice for someone new to buying suits. Let's stick to realistic options where he can walk in a store and get something he sees and likes.

    What about Indochino? Take some measurements of yourself and see what you run with
     
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  7. zerostyle

    zerostyle Well-Known Member

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    I know roughly the measurements I need:

    Shoulders: 17-17.5"
    Chest: 20-20.5" P2P
    BOC Length: 28-29"

    Trying to find these super rare sales is hard, especially if you need a common size (38) in a staple solid color (navy).
     
  8. diadem

    diadem Well-Known Member

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    Get a Benjamin Classico suit from eHaberdasher. It's a fully canvassed, slim-fitting suit for just a little over $500. Definitely a great value for the money. Check out the official affiliate thread for more info. Also, their customer service is great. If you're unsure of fit, you can buy 2 sizes and return the one that doesn't fit hassle-free.

    http://www.styleforum.net/t/69315/www-ehaberdasher-com-affiliate-page
     
  9. zerostyle

    zerostyle Well-Known Member

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    I actually already own a navy suti from them. I'm currently looking for a more inexpensive cotton blazer for the bars, though. Their fully canvassed blazers would be more like $350-$400 I imagine.
     
  10. diadem

    diadem Well-Known Member

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    Well, that was meant for the OP haha [​IMG]
     
  11. spitshine123

    spitshine123 Well-Known Member

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    Looks like a great deal, but no free shipping and returns right? Kind of hesitant buying a suit online without being able to return it for free if sizing doens't work out
     
  12. diadem

    diadem Well-Known Member

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    There's a code for SF users for free shipping -- I believe it's simply SFFRSHIP. Search the official affiliate thread. I believe Ben himself even advocated people to buy 2 sizes if they were unsure of sizing and return the one that doesn't fit free of charge.
     
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