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"Italian way" of necktie tying?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by cappyg00k, Sep 26, 2006.

  1. Jovan

    Jovan Well-Known Member

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    Freud's turning over in his grave.
     
  2. LabelKing

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    Pretty much. Its hanging out and swinging loose. I think that is part of the reason Bow ties give off a more controlled, prim presentation. The Bow tie says that the wearer has his tightly under his control.
    Bow ties are really perverse in their primness. They remind me of Kinsey or Freud who gave up sex when he was 40.
     
  3. redcaimen

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    Bow ties are really perverse in their primness. They remind me of Kinsey or Freud who gave up sex when he was 40.

    So to keep with the Freud theme I guess you could say the Bow tie represents both civilisation and its discontents.
     
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    I thought a prince albert involved a trip to a piercing shop and a lot of courage.


    It does, and a Jacob's Ladder takes a leap of faith and a lot of luck.

    Jon.
     
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    You know, as much as I might like Ferrari, I have to tell you that no self-respecting Marquis, even Luca di Montezemolo should ever wear a tie that way.

    Jon.
     
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    Isn't this style of knot tying called "The Donald Trump"?
     
  7. Charley

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    I believe the word for that is " ritardato. " No idea as to the meaning, though.


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  8. Will

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    Hey guys, I'm sure many of you have seen The Sartorialist's new column in American GQ and he mentioned the man was wearing the necktie the "Italian way", back of the tie longer (i.e., thin part of the neck tie longer). I always thought people did this as a mistake or store displays on mannequins to make the tie knot really thick. Has anyone else ever heard of a such?

    You'll see it a lot if you look for it. Leaving the narrow end long so it can be tucked into your trousers is what you do if don't have your ties made to measure and the ends will otherwise hang too far past your belt.

    More common with high waisted trousers, but men have been doing this for as long as there have been neckties.
     
  9. Toiletduck

    Toiletduck Well-Known Member

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    I call it trying too hard to look stupid

    heheh
     
  10. manicturncoat

    manicturncoat Well-Known Member

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    Another Agnelli quirk copied by his replicants in Italy.
     
  11. gdl203

    gdl203 Well-Known Member

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    Some people call it stylish or sprezzatura:

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    I call it trying too hard or looking stupid, but everyone has their own opinion when it comes to style and fashion.


    well - who looks worse on these pictures: the guys with their tie coming all the way down to their crotch or the guy with a proper tie length and a longer narrow end?

    For shorter guys who don't want a giant knot, ties are just too long so they can either buy short length ties or have a longer narrow end. Now most short people will tuck that narrow end in their pants (or even in their shirt), some of these guys leave it hanging
     
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    When I was young and impetuous, this was called sloppy. Now it's stylish.

    This is progress?
     
  13. Jovan

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    They could at least tuck the narrow end into their shirts... that's what I've always done if it's too long.
     

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