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Is there still a need to buy expensive/exotic/erotic denim?

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Eason, Feb 15, 2010.

  1. Eason

    Eason Well-Known Member

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    My KMW's are starting to look faded and they're becoming my more casual jeans, so I wanted to buy a new pair for more clean/formal looks. So, I went to UNIQLO, and picked up a raw pair in a perfect fit for about 30 USD. Before, I bought my Lee's, LVC, Imperials, Nudies, finally KMW looking for the perfect fit, because unless I bought those expensive brands, I couldn't have gotten what I was looking for. Now, I have probably 7 pairs of jeans from UNIQLO in all colors I could ever need in the exact fit I want, and I think I paid under 30 USD for each of them, in fact, some were around 15 USD. I don't think I'll buy another pair of $275 jeans, because it's become so available in the general market these days. Anybody else feel the same way?

    (this is all redacted in the event my new jeans explode after wearing them for a month)
     
  2. Big Pun

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    Wish I could shop at Uniqlo. [​IMG] The only reason for my last expensive denim purchase (3Sixteen 210s) was it was black coated indigo jeans, and I couldn't find that at a cheaper price. As long as jeans fit good and look good, I don't give a damn about hidden rivets/little details etc. that make the jean alot more expensive. it's just raw indigo to me.
     
  3. snake

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    Wish I could shop at Uniqlo. [​IMG]

    +1

    While I do appreciate the little details that high end denim offers, it's just not that important to me. I've also been buying less denim lately and getting into trousers/slacks more compared to when I first joined SF so it's saved me some coin. Despite all this, I've never been disappointed with any of my higher-end denim purchases.
     
  4. c00kz

    c00kz Well-Known Member

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    Dunno. Fit is usually one factor of three for me. The other two are craftsmanship/materials/longevity and versatility. How much I shell out is usually raised or decreased by how well whatever I'm interested in stacks in those three categories. I can go to H&M and everything fits but I don't buy anything because the lifetime of the garment is seriously in weeks and the fabric is uncomfortable.

    Exclusivity and "details" usually up it for me but I don't need limited edition out of production japan released etc that bad
     
  5. dusty

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    I care most about the expensive parts so yes, still necessary.
     
  6. Asch

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    Next time I need a new pair of jeans, I'm going to try on all the cheap mass-market brands (e.g., Gap, Levis) to see whether there's something well-fitting and attractive that doesn't cost hundreds. I like the great fading you can get with expensive Japanese jeans, but I'm not convinced that they're significantly more durable than cheap-ass jeans. My Iron Hearts, by virtue of their sheer weight, have proven pretty tough, but my other premium jeans have thinned out as fast as any pair of Old Navy jeans I ever wore.
     
  7. Wupper

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    I have several Nudies which fit great and faded nicely but I had a crotch rip in most of them within 9-12 months. Especially got this problem with Slim Jim's. I think they're great looking jeans but not worth the price.

    Around 1,5 years ago I bought some €35 ZARA jeans which look and fit almost the same as the SJ's. Absolutely no crotch rip issues or whatever, nice fading and all. They are my favorite pair of jeans at the moment and worth every cent. No way I will ever buy a pair of jeans for €150 again. It's a waste of money.
     
  8. milosz

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    The Gap selvage doesn't have the character of the Japanese denim I like (neither does Spurr or other expensive brands, for that matter) - no clue if Uniqlo's is similar.

    I prefer repro cuts, the mass market selvage tends to be lower rise and skinnier.

    To be really honest, I'm happy only having one or two pair of jeans instead of 7 - I don't need 'more formal' looks and it saves me space.

    If someone had the same criteria (fit, quality, look, etc.) as you, then I'm sure Uniqlo/etc. would make perfectly acceptable stand-ins as they've done for you. But that's not why everyone buys the expensive/exotic/erotic denim.
     
  9. acidboy

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    I've gone the opposite route... I started out with getting uniqlo jeans and at that time and I happily discovered that they do fit me better than other mall branded jeans out there (zara, gap, etc..). then I started 'experimenting' with more expensive brands to see what the sf hype is all about (apc, earnest sewn) and they do wear better than the uniqlos I had, whom after maybe a year or so of wearing is starting to lose its shape. I got to buy a pair of kmw's on sale and yeah, they are levels above uniqlo in terms of fit, color, everything... of course them being expensive stops me from buying as much pairs as I really want.
     
  10. darkdream

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    I prefer quality jeans (I wash mine every-time I wear them) so if they are poor quality they fade and wear out fast. Not to mention the fit is better on premium jeans.
     
  11. c00kz

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    Why do you wash your jeans after every wear.. ?

    Yeah, I'd like to echo the sentiment that jeans three times the price are not necessarily three times more durable, at all, I hope people don't think that's how it works.
     
  12. bimmernate

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    I buy about one expensive pair a year now. I used to be buying up expensive jeans only. Now I don't see any reason to. The new Gap fits are great for 65 lol
     
  13. TyroneFig

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    My KMW's are starting to look faded and they're becoming my more casual jeans, so I wanted to buy a new pair for more clean/formal looks. So, I went to UNIQLO, and picked up a raw pair in a perfect fit for about 30 USD. Before, I bought my Lee's, LVC, Imperials, Nudies, finally KMW looking for the perfect fit, because unless I bought those expensive brands, I couldn't have gotten what I was looking for. Now, I have probably 7 pairs of jeans from UNIQLO in all colors I could ever need in the exact fit I want, and I think I paid under 30 USD for each of them, in fact, some were around 15 USD. I don't think I'll buy another pair of $275 jeans, because it's become so available in the general market these days. Anybody else feel the same way?

    (this is all redacted in the event my new jeans explode after wearing them for a month)


    It is silly.
    There are so many Levis nowadays. I have at least 10 pair I wear regularly. I'd be upset without that variety.
     
  14. Listi

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    I dunno about things myself.

    If I am going to buy a "WEAR THIS! Awesome denim!" jean, it's going to be something pricey. But right now, I am really wanting to branch out a bit, pants wise, so buying new denim isn't really what I need right now. If I get a decent job this summer I'll probably take a trip to BiG and buy myself something nice. I mean if I look at the jeans I have now...

    Ande Grifters - Skinny, seriously faded
    Nudie SJDJ - Slim straight (sized up), semi faded
    Nudie Thin Finn Dry Black Coated - Super skinny, semi-shiny
    Levi's 510 Raw - Super skinny, very dark
    Cheap Monday Brushed - Super skinny, light and streaky
    RRL Raw Slim Fit - Slim, very dark, my "dressy (lol)" denim.

    Personally, I have all I need. Ande Whalls are my main pair, but even then I only wear them 2-3 times a week nowadays. I like to mix things up more. I am missing a pair of grays, but I just haven't decided yet and am not seriously missing it. There are more important things my wardrobe is missing (brown brogues, cuban heels, a decent sweater, etc.)

    I almost don't want the responsibility of fading a new pair! Half the problem is just with school though, I'm in the lab 2 days a week and although I've never had a big spill... The last thing I need to do is ruin a pair of $200+ jeans by spilling some acid on my jeans.
     
  15. DGP

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    I'm certainly no longer looking at the most expensive jeans out there. There was a time when I'd always bee looking at the highest end stuff (in terms of price), but I've settled somewhere in the "middle," on the $150-225 (at retail) jeans.

    Now that nice jeans have largely taken the place (at least in NY, Chicago and LA) of nice slacks for men my age (mid 20s), they are no longer a novelty item, but rather a wardrobe staple. When I used to buy slacks, I wouldn't go into the highest end shop possible and buy $700 slacks (or even $300 slacks), so why do that with jeans?
     
  16. Fuuma

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    One of the 4 pair of jeans I wear is a black Levi 514 so I can understand the feeling (others are APC, DH and Cloak, w. a new pair of cloak on the way). On the other hand nice denim repros have a character of their own I don't see in Uniqlo.
     
  17. reprehensible

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    It depends on what you want, right?

    If you're just after a particular fit, for its own sake, why not go cheap? Durability is overrated, and inexpensive mass-produced stuff is often extremely durable anyway (industrial production has its benefits).

    High-end stuff is desirable for both visible and invisible reasons, though. It's still the case that artisinal Japanese denim has qualities that the cheaper stuff doesn't have, and designer stuff still offers a lot of, well, design that cheaper stuff doesn't have. But it also offers intangible rewards. Maybe you just like the idea of artisinal jeans, or handmade shoes, or designer knitwear, or what have you. Then the fact that you can get a good-fitting substitute at H&M or Uniqlo doesn't matter much.

    Right? Having a certain look/cut/color is only part of why someone might like the clothes they like.

    The again, it's perfectly possible to only want to achieve a certain look, and if you can do that for less money, why not?
     
  18. Yardsale

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    I don't even have any artisanal japanese denim. apc fits me fine, and I don't go any more expensive than that.
     
  19. TrailofTears

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    I'm not so into the finer details and couldn't care less about selvage lines and all that. I have not been able to find the cut or the denim weight I want in a "mall brand" or other cheap alternative. I am a KMW junkie (having done APC, Nudie, NDG, etc.), owning four pair because I like just about everything about them, from the cut (1980 and 1950) to the way the fabric lays, breaks, stretches, etc. One of my pair is the Hand Dye 1980's from Context, and I just loved the colors in the jeans and wanted something different than just standard indigo raws. I also bought a pair of the 1950 Sorrel's because it is a color that I think helps round out my denim nicely and it comes in a fit and quality package I already know I love.

    That being said, I have never and almost can't swallow the thought of paying retail for any of my jeans. I am just a careful observer of sales and have gotten lucky in a couple instances. Also, I don't have the option to try all the cheaper options (Uniqlo, etc.) that others have, so my choices are limited. Finally, I have to say that I don't buy very much high-end clothing, so denim is kind of my fashion treat for myself. With that in mind, I can completely see your point, since I suppose I see other pieces of a wardrobe like you are starting to see denim. Pick and choose, I guess.
     
  20. jet

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    This thread is no different than anything else we talk about substituting jeans for whatever else out there. Does eason even own anything that costs more than $50?

    I don't think anyone who owns nice things would ever create a thread such as this. Seriously.
     

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