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Is a natural shoulder on a business suit inappropriate?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by eHaberdasher, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. eHaberdasher

    eHaberdasher Well-Known Member

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    What say ye? Sorry I don't have pics for examples at the moment... but what do you think? I'm not saying no shoulder padding at all, but a very very thing/light padding and little to no roping.
     
  2. add911_11

    add911_11 Well-Known Member

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    I personally don't accept total soft shoulder business suit, most high end brands I knew don't do Kel style business suit.
     
  3. NORE

    NORE Well-Known Member

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    Most people wont notice what type of shoulder is on your suit, especially if the suit fits well.
     
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  5. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't necessarily go that route on a business suit, but agree that very few would notice or care.
     
  6. add911_11

    add911_11 Well-Known Member

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    People will notice, especially soft shoulder on sloppy shoulders. Extra bling if one is middle age and obese
     
  7. eHaberdasher

    eHaberdasher Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for weighing in. I'm going to try to dig up an example or two for illustration. I seem to recall seeing an ad in for Zegna with a very natural shoulder...
     
  8. bourbonbasted

    bourbonbasted Well-Known Member

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    I think this is a very subjective question. From a cultural, geographical and industry-specific standpoint. A natural shoulder suit for a creative executive in the US would be more than appropriate, as suits are rarely worn and no one will pick up on details as the suit itself establishes enough credibility. In contrast, a British or Swiss financier's suit might ruffle feathers in a board room if it doesn't adhere to the sharp-lined, masculine "power suit" aesthetic.

    In consulting I feel a natural shoulder makes for a nice balance between the formality of a suit, but the approachability of a more casual/natural drape. Then again I'm pretty sure no one thinks about this detail nearly as much as I do...
     
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  9. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes people do have the needs to dress for conformity.
     
  10. Xenos

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    ^^^ Agreed.

    Others may not be able to specifically identify the difference between a suit with a natural shoulder and their Mens' Wearhouse fare, but they will notice that something is "off".
     
  11. prozach1576

    prozach1576 Well-Known Member

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    I think a natural shoulder can make the wearer look "at home" in a suit, which to me conveys a more subtle and effective sense of authority than the so-called power suit.
     
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  12. LilacCords

    LilacCords Well-Known Member

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    Think this depends more on the physique of the wearer than the environment he's in.
     
  13. GBR

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    I doubt anyone will notice apart from a very few who have form views on such matters. These days most people accept RTW and have no knowledge with which to question it. In any event the contract between the military styles of some Savile Row tailors and that of others such as Andersons never excites any interest.

    Your market research then should be put aside and you should concentrate on the product
     
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    I actually think the natural shoulder would get less negative attention than anything else.
     
  15. Cantabrigian

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    ^ Dat

    Something built up (especially if it's roped) calls a lot more attention to itself.

    If you have a pronounced waterfall on the sleevehead, that is another story - though even there I don't think it really matters.

    A lightly padded, unextended shoulder is as unflashy and unobtrustive as you can imagine.
     
  16. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Well-Known Member

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    Why would it be inappropriate? I don't understand where you're coming from. Besides people who use sites like this one, who do you think is going to notice or even care?
     
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  17. HughJ

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    +1. The word "can" is key, of course. A poor fit quashes any sense of authority either way.
     
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    lee_44106 Well-Known Member

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    It depends on the pecking order of the participants in the business meeting.
     
  19. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    I think what eH is describing is not a problem. It'll be viewed as a little more casual and relaxed, but I don't think it's an issue. If there's spalla camicia and lots of fullness in the sleeve giving the waterfall effect on the sleeves and all that, it's another story.
     
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    No one will notice, but in general, I think they should have strong roped shoulders.... hell, I think all jackets should have strong roped shoulders, otherwise they're just cardigans :p
     
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