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Indochino suits?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by crease, Jan 4, 2008.

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  1. vulcankat33

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    Thanks for the comments. So its pretty much agreed then that the shoulder should be taken in, but by how much? 1/2 inch?
     
  2. ZenStyle

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    vulcan -

    Shoulders def too big. What's your height and what are the shoulder measurements you've given IC? The jacket looks ok other than that. After three remakes how did you still end up with those way too big shoulders?
    Pants look too wide in the thighs and maybe hips.

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    Waist is a bit too small that's why it causes all the wrinkling at the low back. Jacket hips might be a touch small. Jacket length a touch short. The shoulders look good where they meet the sleeves but something across the upper back is too tight cause the lines.

    Pant hips too wide and length a bit long I think.
     
  3. vulcankat33

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    I'm 5'2 with a stocky build. Shoulder measurement was 16.75". The pants I'm wearing is actually the 2nd remake. I thought the same thing about the pants and took in the hips and legs by 1/2". However I found this to be too restrictive, especially when sitting down. It may just be my thick legs, but it seems to look ok when I'm moving around.
     
  4. Sanguis Mortuum

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    The jacket is way too short, it needs to be at least an inch longer, probably closer to two inches. At the moment it just emphasises how stocky you are by making your torso look almost as wide as it is long.
     
  5. holmes

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    I'm assuming that was directed at me. Here's a quick retouch and I see what you mean. Can I assume that the lowered button stance would reduce the space between my torso and the jacket, so it doesn't look like i have a gut? Secondly, what about the wrinkles in the lower back? Would increasing the waist, free up the fabric so it flows better?
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  6. durban1986

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    Thanks a lot so far! I'm a bit concerned if I generally chose the wrong posture/stomach. Both are set to normal.
    If no one protests, i'll update my measurements as follows:
    Quote: Chest +0,25? / maybe Bicep +0,25?
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    Length +0,5 - 1 inch?
    Quote: Stomach +0,5 inch?
    Quote: Jacket Hips +0,5 inch?
    Quote: Trousers are too big everywhere. They will get a complete makeover. min -1 inch everywhere.
     
  7. kkraemer

    kkraemer Well-Known Member

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    OK, I'll join. This is my first Indochino suit, but it's already the first remake (the original suit was way too tight).

    Not sure if I like it, I think my Indo adventure ends here. Or is another remake worth the hassle?

    BTW I know the sleeves are a bit too long, they were way too short on the initial suit and I may have overdone the corrections.

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  8. ZenStyle

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    holmes -

    -as for the low back wrinkling, I think it's due to the waist being pinched too tight in relation to someone having some glutes. I had a similar issue on my first IC suit. Solved it perfectly on my second one..

    - jacket length is short and you can see it looks better in your photoshopped pic, howevet the interesting things is that your arms are short in relation to your hips because usually the jacket length should be just covering the butt and that also usually comes down partway past the thumb knuckles. But in your case when you follow one rule the other one is broken. So you have to kinda find a middle ground, just go by what looks best proportion wise.

    - as for the pants hard to say, they look way too baggy, but as you say risky to sit down. Risky to sit is kinda Indochinos pant style/cut

    - honestly Indochinos slim fit house style doesn't lend itself to your (and many others) body type. They tried to crop it close to all your varios body measurements, but yo can see that clearly doesn't work for you. A more traditional 'regular fit' suit would probably drape and look much better.Hopefully you can adjust the measurements to get a fit that works.

    - by the way, I totally agree and really believe the main issue with the initial suit fittings is the untrained people measuring themselves (or friend),
     
  9. ZenStyle

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    Looks like way more than 0.5" too big in the shoulders. I really think you measured your shoulders in the wrong place..
     
  10. Octoberfile

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    How do the shoulders feel?......Use the rule of thumb and lean vertically up against a wall and see if your shoulder and the suit material both hit the wall at the same time. If you have a bit of padding in the shoulders, there will obviously be a slight gap between the top of your deltoid and the suit's upper arm (this is sometimes referred to as a rolling shoulder)....that's ok, as long as you don't feel like there's too much space.

    Never put your hands in your pockets when you pose as it distorts the visual. Also, always wear a tie with the suit when you want to check the fit......your suit jacket may show a lapel/collar gap, but I can't know for sure until you button your shirt all the way and wear a tie. This will allow others to see if there is a gap between the jacket kneck opening and the collar of your shirt.

    The arms are obviously too long, but a tailor can easily remedy that. A tailor will have a hard time dealing with shoulder alterations, so make sure that your shoulders are right on the mark or very, very close.

    Here's what I see so far....

    1. The shoulders may be too broad and you may experience a collar gap when you button your shirt all the way and wear a tie. However, if you have an athletic build and you feel as if your shoulders fit snug enough, leave the them alone, or you'll end up lookng like a little brick house in a tiny jacket. In other words, don't just judge your fit by what it looks like. The mirror can be deceiving. Consider how the jacket feels. However, if you feel that the shoulders are too wide and there's too much room in the chest...send the damn thing back for either a remake or a refund.....I would go for the refund myself.

    2. The length of the jacket is spot on. Notice how it covers more than 3/4 of your butt and also notice how the jacket length ends right at the knuckle of your thumb. If you can grip the ends of your jacket with your hands without bending your wrists or bending your wrists very little, then the length is where it should be. Also, notice the slightly lower button stance. This shows that your jacket opening ends about where it should end. You don't want too high a button stance with a two button jacket. Others here will say that the jacket should be shortened......don't listen to them. You're not a 15 year old Hedi Slimane model so don't try and look like one.

    3. The pants are fine. Just take them to a tailor and have him hem the length of the pants. Others might tell you to shorten your pants so it shows no break.....don't listen to them. Go with a slight break. Grown men don't wear flood pants.

    Personally, I think Indochino is a complete joke. Ever notice how their models all have slight collar gaps going on with their jackets? Ever notice how almost all the models seem to place at least one hand inside their pant pocket in order to distort the silhouette of the enire suit? Notce how every single model weighs about a buck 15? This is pure deception....very common in retail. I bet you that the photographer pins down certain areas of the suit every time he/she snaps a shot of a model at a different angle.

    You can go to Macy's and purchase an Alfani Red Label for $250 and then get a good tailor to cut it up for about $90, and I guarantee you that the suit will look and fit better than the fantasy that Indochino is trying to sell you on. Don't believe me? There was a guy who posted pictures of himself wearing a suit on WAYWRN a few months ago and quite a few members were complimenting him on his fit. The suit really did look pretty good on him and he received nothing but positive responces from regular posters. When he was asked where he got the suit, he said that he was wearing a cheap Stafford suit he purchased at JC Pennys.

    In fact, for anyone listening, I suggest that before you even think of laying down cash for a new suit, go and find a good tailor first. Talk to him....ask him questions. Get his advice on where to find decent 100% wool, moderately priced suits. He'll point you in the right direction since he'll be the one having to alter your suit and tailors, especially some of these old timers, hate working on garbage suits. However, keep your expectations realistic. Don't look for perfection, because you won't get it.....make sure to leave your obsessive compulsive dissorder at this forum.
     
  11. holmes

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    ZenStyle thanks for the feedback. I am pretty confident that I was able to make the adjustments needed on the jacket. As you note, I followed the rules but they don't work for me. I think had I been in front of a mirror with a tailor, the needed compromise would have been caught sooner; which supports the idea that suit making is more art than science. That being said, I think the first pass at least on the jacket was close and a good learning experience and I certainly wasn't expecting it to be perfect the first time out.

    I am not so confident on the pants, they were just so far off. However I did send Indochino a comparison photo of myself in their pants and in pants that fit me well and hopefully that combined with the adjustments, will help them see what needs to be done.

    Normally I don't do such cuts, but I wanted to see if I could closely reproduce the look that muscular guys had in the 50's-60's and this seemed like a good option to experiment. Unfortunately, i am not as gifted as Reeves was...but am hopeful I can achieve a "V" silhouette from the cut. We'll see in 3 weeks.
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    I think you are using this forum to promote yourself.


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  14. McGregor

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    HA - guilty as charged.
     
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    not to be overly excited, but Indochino is really moving forward - they are holding a fitting event now in Vancouver - anyone here planning on going?
     
  17. Imhoff

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    Looks like they unleashed the "Steve Nash" collection.... really?
     
  18. Taylorstav

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    You wanted to replicate that?!

    Oh lord.
     
  19. LorenzL

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    Yeah, seems they did. I didn't really know who Steve Nash was before, but the collection had a huge impact on the sports community - they got quite a bit of press and twitter buzz for it. The suits are actually really cool, I like the nailhead fabrics and the gray glen plaid suit a lot... and with digital cutting, at least I can now be sure that my suits will fit the same way every time (once you get the fit right in the first place).
     
  20. Imhoff

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    Well Indochino is definitely getting a lot of time in the spotlight because of Steve Nash. Saw it on YaHoo front page yesterday. It's getting some news time here in Arizona (Steve Nash plays for the Phoenix Suns). Definitely found Nash to be fashionable when not on the court. And since Indochino is based in Canada, it makes sense to have a Steve Nash collection, being that he is a Canadian God to that country.
     

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