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If you do not own the following things, you are not well dressed

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Aug 1, 2012.

  1. Manton

    Manton Well-Known Member

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    You need both. That is, to be considered well dressed you need both. Gray for funerals, job interviews and formal day events. Blue for evenings and weddings.

    Plus, you need two staple suits so that you are not always wearing the same one. And you can accessorize them quite differently.
     
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  2. dopey

    dopey Well-Known Member

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    Can you rant about black Gucci loafers now?
    How about camp bluchers (like the old LLBeans)? shell tassel loafers? There's a chain in the harbor. Are you going to sell it out?
     
  3. in stitches

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    i see.

    and a good clarification of the thread title/concept


    :laugh:


    :eek:
     
  4. unbelragazzo

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    I didn't mean to suggest having only one suit as the alternative, but rather a bunch of navy suits as opposed to a mix of navy and gray. I can see gray being more appropriate for the occasions you mention, job interview excepted, but I don't think sufficiently better than navy that a navy-suited man could not be considered well-dressed.
     
  5. Manton

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    The only reason not to get both is if you don't need them, in which case ipso facto you don't care about being well dressed, or you can't afford it, in which case I sympathize but you are not well dressed.
     
  6. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    Given this, I assume you mean a gray worsted suit, not a flannel?
     
  7. Beaunehead

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    A well dressed bald guy should have a Homburg and a flat tweed cap.
     
  8. Manton

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    Yes, did I not specify that?
     
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    You forgot "Office pants."

    I think your list is also somewhat slanted toward people who live in the NE. For example, in some parts of the south, a tweed jacket is a tough sell. I propose a tweed exemption for people living below the Mason Dixon line. In exchange, these people should be required to purchase a bow tie instead.
     
  10. Manton

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    Well I am from California and my list would be no different out there.

    Tweed is useful in the SF damp and also in the desert at night, when it can get very cold. I could live without one in LA proper but out in eastern LA county, where I lived for a while, it got quite cold at night. Hell, I've even worn Shetland in Santa Cruz.
     
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    The logic here is simple. Nobody can be well dressed in the south! :teach: :)
     
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  12. unbelragazzo

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    Nope, this was your item:

    -a mid to dark gray single-breasted suit
     
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    Nope. It was implicit, though, but you had to get to the advanced section to be sure. So when you update the OP, don't forget to add your cal shirt and wine-stained chinos to make sure all occasions are covered.
     
  14. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    Please no.
     
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    Hey - what about formal wear? Isn't that a must for your well-dressed man criteria?
    I would just add "A complete, well-fitting, conventional black tie rig, including shoes" No need to be too prescriptive.
     
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    Don't we all wish.
     
  17. Manton

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    Well, two minds on this one. Yes, I suppose that any fair definition of well dressed shoud include that. However, there are a lot of guys who could use every single thing on my list but who never, ever have call to wear black tie. So I don't know ...
     
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    Moral of the story - I should really have concentrated on the basics first. When you first get into this, even playing around with bespoke, it's so tempting to do some of the crazy things you always wanted to do while ignoring the "boring" things you probably should have sewn up first.

    Damn you Manton, for this new shopping list.
     
  19. unbelragazzo

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    I would put myself in this group. I'm 30, have never had a black tie event, and may well never. If I really stretched it I could go to opening nights at the opera and fancy New Year's Eve parties and maybe be able to wear black tie once or twice a year, but even then I'd likely be in a small minority at these events. Hence my search for more dressed down versions of classic evening wear.
     
  20. dopey

    dopey Well-Known Member

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    I have heard that, but don't believe it. Everyone gets invited to a black-tie wedding at some point.
    It makes perfect sense for someone to save the money and not buy black-tie and make do without or rent the one time you need it. But the list should have it. Whether to or how to follow the list is an individual choice, but the list should be complete. Or add "if necessary"
     

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