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I met Bill Clinton today!

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Urban Warrior, Feb 12, 2005.

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  1. tdial

    tdial Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2004
    Atlanta, GA
    Respect the office, if not the man.
  2. imageWIS

    imageWIS Well-Known Member

    Apr 19, 2004
    New York City / Buenos Aires
    I love the fact (logic) that if he is a womanizer, he must then be a bad politician. Onto which being a good liar is an important trait in a politician; would you vote for the man / woman who couldn't lie?

    To quote John Cleese:

    "The last scene was interesting from the point of view of a professional logician because it contained a number of logical fallacies; that is, invalid propositional constructions and syllogistic forms, of the type so often committed by my wife."All wood burns," states Sir Bedevere. "Therefore," he concludes, "all that burns is wood." This is, of course, pure bullshit. Universal affirmatives can only be partially converted: all of Alma Cogan is dead, but only some of the class of dead people are Alma Cogan. "Oh yes," one would think."


    Oh, yeah: not even worth having discussions with Marc, it's like trying to argue against contradictions.
  3. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2002
    London, UK
    I suppose, that should earn him an invitation to Charles's forthcoming wedding.
  4. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Well-Known Member

    Aug 26, 2004
    Orange County, CA
    I had the great honor of attending a luncheon at the White House once when Clinton was in office (with a group of many other people) and I have to say that Bill Clinton is one of the most charismatic people you'll meet in real life, even for a politician. Generally most politicians that I've met will make you feel that they really care about your concerns, but Clinton seemed to have a certain warmth about him that really lit up a room. I personally felt the US did quite well under his watch, with certain exceptions that weren't necessarily his fault, and some that were (North Korea, China Los Alamos issues)
  5. JLibourel

    JLibourel Well-Known Member

    Aug 7, 2004
    Given that I am a registered Republican and enjoy some small degree of prominence in the so-called "gun culture," I was no great fan of President Clinton, although in hindsight I would have to concede that he did have one of the most successful presidencies in recent history. I also don't approve of adultery and never cheated on any of the three women I have been married to. (Can't say I am entirely immune from temptation, even at my advanced age, but the simple fact of the matter is that any woman who would be likely to tempt me into infidelity is most emphatically not the sort of woman I could ever hope to get. [​IMG] ) Having said all that, can't you guys cut poor old "Slick Willie" a little slack, given to whom he is married? You've got to have some sympathy for the guy. I would fault him more for bad taste than immorality. Admittedly Elizabeth Ward Gracen was a top-drawer babe and Gennifer Flowers wasn't bad at all, but as for the rest....bleeah. At least Jack Kennedy had good taste with the likes of Marilyn Monroe and Angie Dickinson. BTW, the notion that this was all "hush hush" in the pre-Nixon era is baloney. As a late teenage Hollywood kid during the early part of his presidency, I was well aware of JFK's philanderings.
  6. Sasha Baker

    Sasha Baker Member

    Feb 12, 2005
    You, sir, are emminently correct. 1] Any man's, even the leader of the free world's, sexual activities are entirely within his right to keep private. If Clinton had soiled government Oval Office property, that would be an entirely different proposition, but he had the respect for the Office to keep the stains on Monica's dress. 2] He prevented our children from being exposed to adultery. No matter how pushy that nasty neo-con Ken Starr became, the President adamantly declared that no such thing had happened, thus keeping the airwaves free of sexual banter. Additionally on the same subject, he convinced his wife to wear only pant-suits thus saving our children from another horrible sight. 3] He kept us free from terrorism. Instead of being so foolish as to capture Bin Laden when he was offered up on a silver platter, he used his smarts and let Osama take over Afghanistan instead. Whatever it took, he kept those dangerous terrorists off of our shores. 4] He negotiated with North Korea one-on-one and managed to get Kim Jong Very Ill to sign an agreement not to develop nuclear weapons. Hell, the current President can't even say nuclear. Can't really blame Clinton for Very Ill laughing at the treaty behind his back, can we? After all, how could the President have known there were such things as dishonest politicians? 5] He presided over the best eight-year economy in recent memory. It began ... let's see ... Oh, yes. Three months before his inauguration and ended in recession a mere three months before he left office. Given the recent rapproachment between BJC and GHWB, what's three months between friends? 6] He saved us from the embarassment of failed technology. Rather than having the entire Motorola Iridium satellite debacle land squarely upon the good name of the United States, he convinced the Chinese to use our top-secret missle technology to perform all 66 launches from their soil, handily removing from us the possible besmirchment of our 'leader in space' reputation when the entire idea went down in flames just a couple of years later. 7] Rather than place our young soldiers lives and our government's non-imperialist reputation in danger, he initiated a policy of hiring some obscure Texas company named Haliburton to do the overseas dirty work for us whenever such things became necessary. No bad intentions we ... it was those capitalist profit-mongers that done it. 8] Instead of causing foreign leaders to get upset with us by bombing military targets of importance when state-sponsored terrorists brought harm to our citizens and soldiers, he instead kept our international relations in top form and went after those despicable, price-gouging, inhumane drug companies by sending the B-1's to attack one of their aspirin factories. 9] Finally, he selflessly protected much of the national treasure contained in the White House from those awful Republican no-goods. At great personal risk and at his own expense, he has been thoughtful enough to store all that stuff in his crowded Chappequa home until 2009 when the next President Clinton will place it safely back in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Above and beyond the call, I might add. Thank you for having the courage of your convictions on this public forum to defend the President's good name from the evil-doers. I hope I have provided some assistance in my own small way. -
  7. j

    j Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    This is not a watch related thread anymore.

    Sasha, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you have always wanted to register but only just now did, and that you will contribute to style discussions in the future.
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