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I have a jean...(The Ultimate Jean Thread For Beginners) - ask questions here.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by whodini, Jan 28, 2008.

  1. whodini

    whodini Well-Known Member

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    ah so 5ep probably isn't what i'm looking for since i'm mainly looking for some jeans for casual wear as opposed to a project...what about japanese denim? would that be something more along the lines of what i'm looking for or do those take alot of time to take care of and break in as well?
    So I take it you're looking for something quick and easy? APC seems to be a fan favorite for quick fades but I'm not a fan of the denim itself. The new RRL is very nice and from the photos I've seen fades very well and "more easily" than it used to. You could also go the LVC route or better, deadstock selvage from Crate. Been wearing a pair for a month now and it's coming along nicely.

    5ep is Japanese denim, the company just happens to be based in the US. If you want quick fading denim you should probably avoid pretty much all Japanese denim.
    Can't say I agree with this because PG's right. I think it's a common misconception that Japanese brands must be fought tooth and nail on a daily basis. With a few exceptions (5EP and Sugarcane come to mind) I'd say the reverse is true. For starters, the Japanese brands we know usually contain far more starch than the average Nudie or hell, ANY Nudie that I've come across. Nudie also tends to soften up a lot more after the initial break in than any other jeans I've dealt with (r&b stays pretty soft throughout). Couple that with personal experience and evolution photos off here and sufu and I really don't think Nudies are as quick to fade as they're marketed or hyped to be. They're simply more of a no-nonsense no-frills jean that fits great from the get-go and ends up looking like what you wanted when you branched out to raw denim to begin with.

    Back to the OP, as long as you stay away from brands that are notorious for keeping their indigo you should be fine. Or you could just ignore that and enjoy the ride.
     
  2. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Well-Known Member

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    anybody can give an opinion about Ande Whall denim?
    what's the cuts like, denim, pricing and where do you get a pair? thanks.
     
  3. whodini

    whodini Well-Known Member

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    anybody can give an opinion about Ande Whall denim?
    what's the cuts like, denim, pricing and where do you get a pair? thanks.

    This has got to be a joke. The first person to answer any of the questions will find their balls stuffed down their esophagus courtesy of yours truly.
     
  4. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Well-Known Member

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    huh?
    i sincerely dont understand your response. i am seeing ande whall alot but i cant sift through pages and pages just to see if i can get a description or what not anywhere.


    am i missing something?
     
  5. whodini

    whodini Well-Known Member

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    You're missing me having answered one guy for the last three pages about the exact same question. C'mon, sho.
     
  6. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Well-Known Member

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    thanks for the help guys...thinkin of jumping on some new Avg Joe's or maybe the LVC 501xx's on sale in the B&S section.
     
  8. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Well-Known Member

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    just purchased a grifter in 31x34 on sale for 99 dollars from Ande Whall today.

    i hope the sale items are just as new.


    if they are, i would perhaps get the raker 31 on sale as well.
     
  9. heyheyhey

    heyheyhey Well-Known Member

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    Quick Q. Storing my raws at night: [​IMG] Good way? (Sorry, bad lighting on the photo, but you get the idea.)
     
  10. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Well-Known Member

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    that is how i try to store my raw denim too. i try not to fold them away and if i do, try different angles to fold not just the same fold over and over again as perhaps it will fade unnaturally there when you do your wash.
     
  11. heyheyhey

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    I had an idea that I could fold them at the honeycombs, and then at the whiskers, if you get what I mean, but I was thinking that might reset the creases.
     
  12. spreadcollar

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    acne mic ravens - are these an overdye black or just a black?
     
  13. agent86a

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    Ok, total newbie here--but I have read a bit before posting. Looking to buy a pair of raw denim. I know most people buy raw for the fades, but I actually really like the look of dark indigo denim. I would like something that will hold color a while and fade slowly. I'd also like to stay under $150 or so if possible.

    I tried on Naked & Famous and almost bought a pair of weird guy dark indigo, but the 34" waist fit perfectly, and I wanted to size down to 33" in case it stretched a bit. The store didn't have the jean in that size.

    I was all set to buy APC NS in 32" or 33" but then read that it fades really fast. Is this true even with minimal washing? I would appreciate your input. Thanks!
     
  14. DocHunter

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    I want to soak my jeans tomorrow for the first time. What detergent should I throw into the tub with them?
     
  15. who8mahrice

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    Ok, total newbie here--but I have read a bit before posting. Looking to buy a pair of raw denim. I know most people buy raw for the fades, but I actually really like the look of dark indigo denim. I would like something that will hold color a while and fade slowly. I'd also like to stay under $150 or so if possible.

    I tried on Naked & Famous and almost bought a pair of weird guy dark indigo, but the 34" waist fit perfectly, and I wanted to size down to 33" in case it stretched a bit. The store didn't have the jean in that size.

    I was all set to buy APC NS in 32" or 33" but then read that it fades really fast. Is this true even with minimal washing? I would appreciate your input. Thanks!


    Try looking for resin coated stuff. It's supposed to make fading slowwwwwww.
    APCs fade relatively fast.

    I want to soak my jeans tomorrow for the first time. What detergent should I throw into the tub with them?

    None? If you're just soaking them, you don't need detergent, do you? Practically speaking, how would you get it out afterwards?
     
  16. DocHunter

    DocHunter Well-Known Member

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    Try looking for resin coated stuff. It's supposed to make fading slowwwwwww.
    APCs fade relatively fast.



    None? If you're just soaking them, you don't need detergent, do you? Practically speaking, how would you get it out afterwards?


    I was going to empty the tub and then run them through some clean water to rinse. What detergent do people recommend? I just want something to get a little stank out of my jeans.

    Here's another question: who makes the best washed denim?

    I'd like to try a pair or two of washed denim as a little change of pace. Plenty of raw denim discussion around here, but who makes the best washed denim?
     
  17. upnorth

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    What are some good stretch (containing some percentage of spandex/ elastane/ lycra) denims you guys would recommend? I cannot take skinny or slim jeans. Any brands?

    Does Ernest Sewn, Rag & Bone or 5EP offer these? I know Chip and Pepper, 7FAM, AG Goldschmeid and Lucky have offerings with stretch denims but my search seem to tell me that these brands are not well liked here.
     
  18. drizzt3117

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    R&B has some jeans with stretch, the style itself is generally not well liked here, though. I would personally go with 7FAM if I had to have stretch.
     
  19. The Rocketeer

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    I recently got a pair of KMW 1950s, and they've got just a shade of extra room now that I've worn them a bunch. When I wash, I'd like to maximize their shrinkage without doing anything funky to the indigo. I've read here that warmer water will shrink more, but will it affect the coloration in any way? Thanks.
     
  20. onion

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    I recently got a pair of KMW 1950s, and they've got just a shade of extra room now that I've worn them a bunch. When I wash, I'd like to maximize their shrinkage without doing anything funky to the indigo. I've read here that warmer water will shrink more, but will it affect the coloration in any way? Thanks.
    KMW indigo is pretty colorfast, so I doubt it will be a big deal. If you just want shrinkage, I would hot soak them (inside out) in a bathtub, rather than hot machine wash them. With less agitation and no detergent, the indigo loss will be far less.
     

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