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I don't get it, why buy a €5000 Brioni or Kiton suit when you can go bespoke?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Young Gentleman, Mar 5, 2012.

  1. gyalos

    gyalos Well-Known Member

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    Not the case, if the suit is well fitting.
     
  2. bourbonbasted

    bourbonbasted Well-Known Member

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    How has this thread gone 5 pages without someone mentioning "5 cm"?
     
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    I was not happy with the fit of either of my suits. And, I did not want to pay a lot of money for another suit that may or may not fit well.
     
  4. Young Gentleman

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    Some mentioned not wanting to wait. I am not a patient man either but bespoke shirts here in France take only one month to make and MTM suits a month and a half. I think waiting for a month or a month and a half is reasonable even for someone who doesn't like waiting. The pleasure of knowing that something was made just for you is truly great. MTM is often cheaper than Kiton or Brioni too, my MTM suits cost me about €1800 to €2200 and for the price of one Kiton or Brioni suit I can have two, sometimes even three MTM suits with near equivalent quality (fully canvassed, hand finished etc...).
     
  5. F. Corbera

    F. Corbera Well-Known Member

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    Technically, it's not bespoke if it is made on the wrong pattern.
     
  6. Blackhood

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    Few people have mentioned: I'm not a designer. I know "like" and "dislike" not how to make. Thus purchasing something designed by someone else has an advantage. I'd end up with pink Cupro coat with a dark wool lining.
     
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  7. bourbonbasted

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    Well it's still bespoke. Just not bespoke for you/your pattern*.

    There are plenty of eBay sellers that make a considerable amount by selling "bespoke" clothing. This of course is a ridiculous notion and underlines that there is a segment of buyers out there, however small, that will spend more on an item marked "bespoke" even when it is not made for them. Clearly a group that confuses "quality" and "bespoke."

    *I'm assuming here that the pants sent to Foo were based off of a similar pattern that was made for someone else.
     
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  8. Young Gentleman

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    Now that is a good argument!

    But fortunately there are also some tailors who can act as designers.
     
  9. JubeiSpiegel

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    I enjoy threads like this. Allow me to digress to the topic on why some bespoke tailors charge significantly varied prices for their bespoke efforts.

    For example, a suit made in Saville Row in general is considerable less expensive than an equivalent suit made by Rubinacci. Is neopolitan tailoring that elusive and complex? Just curious, because I enjoy both venues of tailoring.
     
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    Yes I am very offended.
    You managed to be very right and wrong at the same time.
     
  11. imatlas

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    :nodding:
     
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    How can I read this thread and not be reminded of JeromeStyle?
     
  13. patrickBOOTH

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    Rubinacci is an outlier in Naples.
     
  14. F. Corbera

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    Are you sure?


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    Thick as Thieves - they are popular in this forum for offering made to measure (i know, not the same as bespoke) suits for a reasonable price
     
  17. F. Corbera

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    They were, indeed, made for someone else: the Ghost of Mafoofan Past. :foo: had wanted...and was promised...the pattern updated for the Ghost of Mafoofan Present.
     
  18. AlexE

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    The brand label sewn into the suit. Ever tried to impress someone at a non-SF party outside of London with a Henry Poole suit? Almost certainly noone will know. Brioni however...
     
  19. bourbonbasted

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    It's only appropriate here that "foo past" sounds so much like "fupas" in passing.
     
  20. patrickBOOTH

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    Or faux pas...
     

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